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tysonlowery

New Amateur Draft finished

April 27, 2004 at 08:20PM View BBCode

We just moved the last of the error checking logic in for the Amateur Draft preferences. Everything should work now.

There are settings so you can indicate the maximum number of players to select at each position. If some people could try testing this out for their upcoming drafts that would be a big help.

Thanks!!!
arodtoo

April 28, 2004 at 02:33AM View BBCode

possible error, what if you type in maximum of 3 infielders, and then type in i want 0 1b, 0 2b, and 0 3b, but i don't want more than 4 SS, would it go by the 4 or the 3? or what if i set every position to a maximum of 0?

I will test out setting every position to 0

[Edited on 4-28-2004 by arodtoo]
poppabeta

April 28, 2004 at 01:32PM View BBCode

Short Term League Amateur Draft

The draft work perfectly - preranking and automatically moving a traded draft pick.

I of course edited the available players an selected a preference of 'any player' (best available taking into account my settings) with the following result:

Round 1 Overall Pick 2 player obtained was my #2 ranked player
Round 2 Overall Pick 18 player obtained was my #13 ranked player
Round 3 Overall Pick 34 player obtained was my #18 ranked player
Round 4 Overall Pick 50 player obtained was my #35 ranked player
Round 5 Overall Pick 66 player obtained was my #42 ranked player

I had Baltimore's 3rd pick via a trade and ABE automatically placed the pick on my roster.
Round 3 Overall Pick 48 player obtained was my #29 ranked player

If others have the same experience, this improved amateur draft should be ready for use in the Dynasty and Custom Leagues.

Poppa
Bingle

April 28, 2004 at 01:47PM View BBCode

I thrilled to hear that you guys are there or almost there with the new draft system. I really hope you can introduce it for the upcoming dynasty season draft!
tysonlowery

April 28, 2004 at 04:21PM View BBCode

Adding the error checking for the maximum position stuff would have taken too much time (since teams can have between 0 and 80 draft picks in a draft), so we just check for positive numbers here.

Let's say you have 7 draft picks, but have it set to be a maximum of 2 Starting Pitchers with 0 on everything else. The draft code will draft your highest ranked player remaining for picks 3-7. Similarly, if you have it set to draft a maximum of 7 SP and have 0 on everything else and there are no SP left for your last pick, it will draft your highest ranked player.

So in other words, if you screw up the math on this, it should still work out.

Now to answer the other question, what if there is overlap? The code uses "or" to look at the logic. So lets say you have it set to a maximum of 2 2B, 4 infielders, and 3 middle infielders. You draft a 2B in the first and 2nd rounds. You could still draft a 2B in the 3rd round, since you don't yet have 3 middle infielders. And you could draft a 2B in the 4th round since you don't yet have 4 infielders.

Now that I've typed that - it sounds really stupid. Let me rethink this...
Jack1

It made sense to me.

April 28, 2004 at 08:26PM View BBCode

JackBeta
ballplayer

April 28, 2004 at 08:26PM View BBCode

Something didn't work right. I had a number between 1 and 4 for each of the positions, except 3B had 0. In the fourth round I ended up with a 3B. I should not have ended up with a 3B. This needs more evaluation.

Regards, Mike
ballplayer

April 28, 2004 at 08:28PM View BBCode

Something didn't work right. I had a number between 1 and 4 for each of the positions, except 3B had 0. In the fourth round I ended up with a 3B. I should not have ended up with a 3B. This needs more evaluation.

Regards, Mike
tysonlowery

April 28, 2004 at 08:29PM View BBCode

Mike - have you changed your settings since then?
ballplayer

April 29, 2004 at 05:03PM View BBCode

Tyson,

When I saw the message at the beginning of this thread I went to check my preferences, and I saw that they had been reset to the default (all 0's, except Any Player which was set to 5). The draft had not been run yet, so I set my preferences as I mentioned above.

After the draft, I see that my preferences are again reset to the default. I'm not sure whether this is intentionally reset after the draft, or if it got reset some other way.

I know that I pressed the "Update Positions" button after I set my preferences.

Regards, Mike
tysonlowery

April 29, 2004 at 05:58PM View BBCode

Hmmm - I think that maybe some of the back-end workings of this page changed when we moved the new version in.

I'd like to speed through this current season so we can get some more testing of this in early next week.

I have updated the schedule for both beta leagues so that 3 games should be played in each time slot instead of just 1.
andrew

April 29, 2004 at 06:16PM View BBCode

Should it let you put in zeros for every catigory in the "Maximum Players per Position" section? It let me, and that doesn't seem right.
tysonlowery

April 29, 2004 at 06:21PM View BBCode

Let's say you have 7 draft picks, but have it set to be a maximum of 2 Starting Pitchers with 0 on everything else. The draft code will draft your highest ranked player remaining for picks 3-7. Similarly, if you have it set to draft a maximum of 7 SP and have 0 on everything else and there are no SP left for your last pick, it will draft your highest ranked player.
That would apply in this case...
jrspc4

May 04, 2004 at 05:02PM View BBCode

Did we ever get it so it would sort by "Youth" When I was last trying it would not do so. Did this get taken care of, and I missed it?
tysonlowery

May 04, 2004 at 05:48PM View BBCode

I believe it has been taken care of. Give it a test and let me know what you find.
jrspc4

May 04, 2004 at 06:15PM View BBCode

I just did and it had curious results.

If you put 100 on youth for both pitchers and hitters.

It has 17 and 18 yr olds mixed together at the top of the list, but not in the exact order. And does this with other ages as well.

Kind of curious results??:puzzled::puzzled:
tysonlowery

May 04, 2004 at 06:52PM View BBCode

Okay, I fixed the problem. It should rank them based on age now.
jrspc4

May 04, 2004 at 06:57PM View BBCode

Excellent
thx
tysonlowery

May 04, 2004 at 06:59PM View BBCode

Let's say you have 7 draft picks, but have it set to be a maximum of 2 Starting Pitchers with 0 on everything else. The draft code will draft your highest ranked player remaining for picks 3-7. Similarly, if you have it set to draft a maximum of 7 SP and have 0 on everything else and there are no SP left for your last pick, it will draft your highest ranked player.

So in other words, if you screw up the math on this, it should still work out.

Now to answer the other question, what if there is overlap? The code uses "or" to look at the logic. So lets say you have it set to a maximum of 2 2B, 4 infielders, and 3 middle infielders. You draft a 2B in the first and 2nd rounds. You could still draft a 2B in the 3rd round, since you don't yet have 3 middle infielders. And you could draft a 2B in the 4th round since you don't yet have 4 infielders.

Now that I've typed that - it sounds really stupid. Let me rethink this...

I'm working on the rule book right now, and this sounds even dumber typing it out a second time.

I am going to change this to use "and" logic. So if there is overlap, it would work like this:

Lets say you have it set to draft 3 infielders, 2 corner infielders, and 1 1B. You will draft a max of 3 infielders (a maximum of 2 of which can be corner infielders - and no more than one of those could be a 1B).

This will be in place for the next drafts.
ballplayer

May 04, 2004 at 08:35PM View BBCode

Tyson, using your example above, if we had Any Batter set to 0, does this mean that we would not get any batters?

Regards, Mike
tysonlowery

May 04, 2004 at 08:43PM View BBCode

If you had any batter set to 0, and any pitcher set to 5 (or RP & SP set to a total of 5), you'll draft 0 batters.
tysonlowery

May 04, 2004 at 08:46PM View BBCode

Is this too confusing? Should it be simplified so overlap isn't possible?
tysonlowery

May 06, 2004 at 09:16PM View BBCode

Bump

Thinking of changing this area so it only lists the 9 positions. Any thoughts?
tysonlowery

May 07, 2004 at 04:28PM View BBCode

Looking for feedback please???

Maybe typing out the Pros and Cons will tell me what to do:

Pros of having just the 9 positions:
Less confusing
Less potential for owner mistakes, like an owner who sets Max 1B to 3, but Max Infielders to 0 and then complains when he doesn't draft a 1B.

Pros of including the right column:
More flexibility
I'm trying to figure out a scenario where this added flexibility would be useful. Do people really enter a draft thinking I need to get a SS no matter what? Even if it means not getting one until the 5th round? Or I definitely want at least 1 pitcher no matter what?

I think I'm going to eliminate the right column, unless there are strong objections
ballplayer

May 07, 2004 at 04:43PM View BBCode

I think that eliminating the right column will help avoid having people get upset when something gets messed up.

For the draft preferences, I think that just positions is OK. It's 10 positions though, when you separate SP & RP. I like being able to set positions to 0 because I may have young players, or abundant players at a particular position.

Regards, Mike

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