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tysonlowery
There is still a lot to be worked out in this area - including the logic for updating this page if you put the same number in for 2 different players (we're working on that next week).
I have converted the Short-Term Beta league to a dynasty league for the time being so you can look at it too. I will probably run an amateur draft with you as well so you can help with testing that out.
One thing I'm trying to work out is when the list of players should be generated during the season - keeping in mind that some leagues run 15 games per day. August 1st sounds reasonable, what do you think?
Also, before going live with this, we will add another section where you can specifiy the maximum number of players to select at each position during the draft. This way you can make sure you don't draft all pitchers, or that you do draft all pitchers!
I wrote the first pass at the logic for actually conducting the draft today. We will have to see how it works out.
Amateur Draft Pre-Select
February 20, 2004 at 09:48PM View BBCode
We have moved the first step of the new amateur draft code into place. If you go to Draft Center, then Amateur Draft Preferences you will see the list of players.There is still a lot to be worked out in this area - including the logic for updating this page if you put the same number in for 2 different players (we're working on that next week).
I have converted the Short-Term Beta league to a dynasty league for the time being so you can look at it too. I will probably run an amateur draft with you as well so you can help with testing that out.
One thing I'm trying to work out is when the list of players should be generated during the season - keeping in mind that some leagues run 15 games per day. August 1st sounds reasonable, what do you think?
Also, before going live with this, we will add another section where you can specifiy the maximum number of players to select at each position during the draft. This way you can make sure you don't draft all pitchers, or that you do draft all pitchers!
I wrote the first pass at the logic for actually conducting the draft today. We will have to see how it works out.
hcboomer
Personally I think this will be one of the best changes in a long time in Sim world (not that other improvements haven't been good, but I think this is a great one).
February 20, 2004 at 10:37PM View BBCode
Looks terrific. As far as when to generate the pool, Aug. 1 sounds fine, although it wouldn't hurt to do it earlier either. Ultimately it doesn't matter a whole lot, all you really want to do is make sure everyone gets a chance to go through it. I don't think seeing it earlier would, for instance, change someone's tanking strategies or anything like that.Personally I think this will be one of the best changes in a long time in Sim world (not that other improvements haven't been good, but I think this is a great one).
tysonlowery
Hopefully we can get the draft pick trades built into the game in the next couple months as well.
February 20, 2004 at 10:47PM View BBCode
Yeah, I was thinking about the date in terms of draft pick trades as well. Would there be an advantage to doing it earlier or later when factoring in potential to trade for or trade away draft picks?Hopefully we can get the draft pick trades built into the game in the next couple months as well.
FiveToolPlayer
February 20, 2004 at 10:58PM View BBCode
I disagree about the list effecting tanking strategies. If there is a stud, teams are going to do everything they can to lose games. Playing everyone out of position, picking up D players from the waiver wire, messing with manager preferences, etc. We don't need that. The way it currently works, you never know if there will be a stud so you are at least encouraged to play the guys who can improve in the offseason. I'd suggest September 1 for releasing the player list.
ballplayer2
2. When is the Amateur draft held for MLB. I think it is held in the summer, but I'm not sure. Would it make sense to inform the league of the Amateurs on Sept. 1st, and then hold the Amateur draft in July?
Regards, Mike
P.S. Going on vacation with no Internet for a while. I'll be back the 1st week of March.
Some things to think about
February 20, 2004 at 11:00PM View BBCode
1. Will the implementation of this INCREASE tanking your team when you see a standout stud in the draft. We don't want guys viciously trying to LOSE games any more than we already do. If that will happen, then DON'T implement this until the tanking problem is resolved.2. When is the Amateur draft held for MLB. I think it is held in the summer, but I'm not sure. Would it make sense to inform the league of the Amateurs on Sept. 1st, and then hold the Amateur draft in July?
Regards, Mike
P.S. Going on vacation with no Internet for a while. I'll be back the 1st week of March.
FiveToolPlayer
February 20, 2004 at 11:06PM View BBCode
I think this enhancement is one of the best ones yet. However, it's currently pretty cumbersome to use. Is there a possibility that it's going to be switched to a Yahoo-fantasy-baseball style? They have a box listing all of the players and you can highlight a player, click an arrow up or down and he gets moved around. Is this a possibility?
arodtoo
February 20, 2004 at 11:41PM View BBCode
how can there be 16 year olds in the draft, i see multiple 16 year olds. Is this because you released the list before the end of the season?
DougPaz
February 21, 2004 at 01:00AM View BBCode
I must be doing something wrong, I can't seem to bring up the list of players.
andrew
February 21, 2004 at 02:48AM View BBCode
I agree with 5 tool, as it is now it looks like you have to renumber every player if you change the rankings. Overall it is cool though.
disciple
I agree with FiveToolPlayer, the player list shouldn't be available till September to avoid mass tanking to get the occassional stud SP that surfaces from time to time.
It would be nice if the Tot (total rating) column was sortable.
I'd like to see an auto-adjustment feature that would allow me to change a single player's Ranking without having to adjust every other player's ranking. For example, let's say I want to change the player ranked #31 to #2. As it is now wouldn't I be forced to change the ranking of players #2 through #31? You might need to add a "button" beside each player that would allow the owner to change a single player's ranking and then ABE would auto-adjust everyone else's ranking - did that make any sense?!
February 21, 2004 at 05:42AM View BBCode
This is such a great addition! My comments:I agree with FiveToolPlayer, the player list shouldn't be available till September to avoid mass tanking to get the occassional stud SP that surfaces from time to time.
It would be nice if the Tot (total rating) column was sortable.
I'd like to see an auto-adjustment feature that would allow me to change a single player's Ranking without having to adjust every other player's ranking. For example, let's say I want to change the player ranked #31 to #2. As it is now wouldn't I be forced to change the ranking of players #2 through #31? You might need to add a "button" beside each player that would allow the owner to change a single player's ranking and then ABE would auto-adjust everyone else's ranking - did that make any sense?!
arodtoo
February 21, 2004 at 05:58AM View BBCode
i say the list shouldn't be made available until the last possible moment, say right before the playoffs start, that gives owners 2 days, but it also prevents a team that say is in a close race to finish last, from tanking. If not at the end of September, i wouldn't make it an earlier than the middle of september, the 30 games that are played in september can have a big impact, and teams can tank enough during those games to get the stud. Maybe Sept 15?
tysonlowery
1) Functioning basic Amateur Draft ranking page
2) Functioning basic Inital Draft ranking page
3) Java Applet (like Yahoo) Amateur Draft screen
4) Java Applet (like Yahoo) Initial draft screen.
I decided it was best to get that in first before making changes.
If you move a player from 32 to 2, and don't adjust anyone in between, the code should bump those guys down automatically for you. As I mentioned above, this is one area he is improving this upcoming week because it doesn't work that well and the algorithm is a bit spotty, and it can be slow.
The players are currently 16. By the time the draft is executed (official sim date is March 1st, 1951) they should be 17.
In most leagues, they do LCS on day 1 after the season ends, WS on day 2, then offseason and amateur draft on day 3. If the list is generated right before the LCS, then that gives owners at least 2 days to set preferences. I'm not sure if that is ample time. Lets say the season ends on a Friday, and the players are generated early saturday morning. The draft would run sometime on Monday.
This would be fine for the Dynasty leagues. Maybe I can make this date configurable by league so that if leagues want to, they can generate the players at different times. Sept 15th would be a good default for leagues I think.
I'll see about getting Tot to sort.
Did I get everyone's questions?
Some responses
February 21, 2004 at 08:29PM View BBCode
Regarding a Yahoo like draft thing - that is in the works. Damaestrio is working on these things - here is the order we have for the draft screens (his part):1) Functioning basic Amateur Draft ranking page
2) Functioning basic Inital Draft ranking page
3) Java Applet (like Yahoo) Amateur Draft screen
4) Java Applet (like Yahoo) Initial draft screen.
I decided it was best to get that in first before making changes.
If you move a player from 32 to 2, and don't adjust anyone in between, the code should bump those guys down automatically for you. As I mentioned above, this is one area he is improving this upcoming week because it doesn't work that well and the algorithm is a bit spotty, and it can be slow.
The players are currently 16. By the time the draft is executed (official sim date is March 1st, 1951) they should be 17.
In most leagues, they do LCS on day 1 after the season ends, WS on day 2, then offseason and amateur draft on day 3. If the list is generated right before the LCS, then that gives owners at least 2 days to set preferences. I'm not sure if that is ample time. Lets say the season ends on a Friday, and the players are generated early saturday morning. The draft would run sometime on Monday.
This would be fine for the Dynasty leagues. Maybe I can make this date configurable by league so that if leagues want to, they can generate the players at different times. Sept 15th would be a good default for leagues I think.
I'll see about getting Tot to sort.
Did I get everyone's questions?
hobos
I tried this and pressed the update button but I now have two guys ranked 2 and none ranked 32. Is this what you mean by "it doesn't work that well"
Otherwise, this is a great feature
February 21, 2004 at 08:38PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tysonlowery
If you move a player from 32 to 2, and don't adjust anyone in between, the code should bump those guys down automatically for you. As I mentioned above, this is one area he is improving this upcoming week because it doesn't work that well and the algorithm is a bit spotty, and it can be slow.
I tried this and pressed the update button but I now have two guys ranked 2 and none ranked 32. Is this what you mean by "it doesn't work that well"
Otherwise, this is a great feature
andrew
February 21, 2004 at 08:48PM View BBCode
Will there be any option to use the old (or I guess current) draft system. That would be nice for people who are out of town and won't get a chance to look at the players.
Jack1
I think about September 15, would be an excellent time to avail the list, that leaves approximately 3 weeks in theory to evaluate and set your preferences.
With 15 game/day leagues that still would mean about a 5 or 6 day window, which is plenty of time to evaluate and set in those leagues.
Give my best to Damaestrio for the good work he has accomplished with this project.
I'd love to see the original draft que, implemented as soon as possible as it would be a great addition to your game.
Jack1
I just viewed the Amateur Draft settings!!!
February 21, 2004 at 09:18PM View BBCode
Tyson, The new draft que is excellent. I had no problem changing players.I think about September 15, would be an excellent time to avail the list, that leaves approximately 3 weeks in theory to evaluate and set your preferences.
With 15 game/day leagues that still would mean about a 5 or 6 day window, which is plenty of time to evaluate and set in those leagues.
Give my best to Damaestrio for the good work he has accomplished with this project.
I'd love to see the original draft que, implemented as soon as possible as it would be a great addition to your game.
Jack1
tysonlowery
February 21, 2004 at 10:10PM View BBCode
Perhaps, I hadn't considered leaving it in, but maybe I should have 2 ways. Its already built, I might as well figure out a way to make that an option for people.
Will there be any option to use the old (or I guess current) draft system. That would be nice for people who are out of town and won't get a chance to look at the players.
Yeah, I hadn't tested it yet. Kee-Won was working on it and relayed to me that it didn't work. We worked out a programming plan for breaking ranking ties and he is going to work on it this week.
I tried this and pressed the update button but I now have two guys ranked 2 and none ranked 32. Is this what you mean by "it doesn't work that well"
FiveToolPlayer
February 22, 2004 at 02:21PM View BBCode
Sept 15 would be great for dynasty leagues. It would give everyone a week to rank players and less time to purposely tank to get the stud player.
INDIANSFORLIFE
It sounds great and can't wait to have it in.
February 22, 2004 at 03:12PM View BBCode
Hey, is this going to put into place after this season (dynasty/single), or at a later date?It sounds great and can't wait to have it in.
Anonymous
- Smocko
February 22, 2004 at 05:58PM View BBCode
This is a sickly wonderful new addition.... I suggest that the draftees be displayed under a link called "Draftees" instead of prefrences.- Smocko
Anonymous
- Smocko
February 22, 2004 at 06:00PM View BBCode
Also, the players should be in groups of 16, not 10, so it is easier to see them as rounds of the draft.- Smocko
jrspc4
Smocko I like that suggestion as well.
Jeff
February 23, 2004 at 01:36AM View BBCode
Great idea!Smocko I like that suggestion as well.
Jeff
geoffrey13
rankings
February 23, 2004 at 04:52AM View BBCode
I say leave it as is...this way, I can rate all the deadbeats as 100 and not have to worry about relisting everyone...makes it easier to go through the rankings and creating 3-4 different numbers to rate players as (11 for good ones, 22 for medium, 99 for crap) and then re-ranking each individual group.Pages: 1 2