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maxthesax
Just when I'm 1 day from getting my best player back - my #1 starting pitcher goes down for 32 freakin' days.
so just to recap - let's add those 32 days to:
this season thus far Baltimore has had to deal with 171 days of player injury - the latest, to MVP candidate Chris Donut for 25 games is going to be the hardest to overcome - yeah, I hate the injury system in SD - in a simulation of this type, random chance is already represented in the player's abilities - we don't need no stinkin' injuries.
for the record: Grimes (starting left fielder) 20 games
Lightenberg (backup catcher and 4th outfielder) 20 games
Voiselle (back up 3b, 2b, ss) 31 games
Wannacracker (Starting CF against lefties) 29 games
Andrus (starting catcher) 17 games
Miller (starting RF against lefties) 29 games
Donut (starting 3b) 25 games
Cunningham (#1 SP) 32 games
a total of 203 days missed due to injury.
adding injury to insult
October 26, 2016 at 10:48PM View BBCode
as previously noted - Baltimore has been hit with a rash of injuries this season - yet is still somehow hanging on to 2nd in the AL.Just when I'm 1 day from getting my best player back - my #1 starting pitcher goes down for 32 freakin' days.
so just to recap - let's add those 32 days to:
this season thus far Baltimore has had to deal with 171 days of player injury - the latest, to MVP candidate Chris Donut for 25 games is going to be the hardest to overcome - yeah, I hate the injury system in SD - in a simulation of this type, random chance is already represented in the player's abilities - we don't need no stinkin' injuries.
for the record: Grimes (starting left fielder) 20 games
Lightenberg (backup catcher and 4th outfielder) 20 games
Voiselle (back up 3b, 2b, ss) 31 games
Wannacracker (Starting CF against lefties) 29 games
Andrus (starting catcher) 17 games
Miller (starting RF against lefties) 29 games
Donut (starting 3b) 25 games
Cunningham (#1 SP) 32 games
a total of 203 days missed due to injury.
spicoli306
I know you probably don't want to hear from me as Cleveland has only had 1 injury all season (by a developing reliever, not exactly a tough hole to fill). :lol: The difference between Baltimore and Cleveland has almost certainly been luck and only luck. But, I do feel the need to point out that one of the unfortunate quirks of the game is that any player who plays in a game has some chance of getting injured. Of course, each player's chance is weighted differently based on each respective health rating. The point I'm trying to make is that essentially there is a roll of the dice following every game for every player that gets in the game. I'd say this puts a manager like yourself (i.e. one that uses his bench a lot) at a large disadvantage in the injury department. If every bench position player makes an appearance, that would mean 5-6 more players with a chance of getting injured. A manager who just sticks with the starting lineup and has the starting pitcher hit for himself can only possibly lose one (or more) of those 9 players following said game. Take for instance Lightenberg. He's gotten 47 total starts this season, but he's got a total of 94 games played. The game engine doesn't see the start as any different from a pinch hit or a defensive replacement. It's a stupid feature of the game engine. If anything, getting more guys in each game should lessen the chances of injury not increase them. Unfortunately, the SimD engine doesn't work that way.
I'm not trying to tell you to be less aggressive with substitutions. Something like not pinch hitting for the pitcher spot could cost you quite a few wins over the course of the season. However, I do feel the need to point it out. You might want to tone down the defensive replacements/bringing in younger guys as mid-game replacements. It probably will only be a slight difference, but it should help a little in the long run.
October 27, 2016 at 01:35AM View BBCode
Originally posted by maxthesax
as previously noted - Baltimore has been hit with a rash of injuries this season - yet is still somehow hanging on to 2nd in the AL.
I know you probably don't want to hear from me as Cleveland has only had 1 injury all season (by a developing reliever, not exactly a tough hole to fill). :lol: The difference between Baltimore and Cleveland has almost certainly been luck and only luck. But, I do feel the need to point out that one of the unfortunate quirks of the game is that any player who plays in a game has some chance of getting injured. Of course, each player's chance is weighted differently based on each respective health rating. The point I'm trying to make is that essentially there is a roll of the dice following every game for every player that gets in the game. I'd say this puts a manager like yourself (i.e. one that uses his bench a lot) at a large disadvantage in the injury department. If every bench position player makes an appearance, that would mean 5-6 more players with a chance of getting injured. A manager who just sticks with the starting lineup and has the starting pitcher hit for himself can only possibly lose one (or more) of those 9 players following said game. Take for instance Lightenberg. He's gotten 47 total starts this season, but he's got a total of 94 games played. The game engine doesn't see the start as any different from a pinch hit or a defensive replacement. It's a stupid feature of the game engine. If anything, getting more guys in each game should lessen the chances of injury not increase them. Unfortunately, the SimD engine doesn't work that way.
I'm not trying to tell you to be less aggressive with substitutions. Something like not pinch hitting for the pitcher spot could cost you quite a few wins over the course of the season. However, I do feel the need to point it out. You might want to tone down the defensive replacements/bringing in younger guys as mid-game replacements. It probably will only be a slight difference, but it should help a little in the long run.
maxthesax
My biggest dilemma is not so much pinch hitting, but defensive replacements - my current crop of developing players have yet to find a glove that doesn't have a hole in it - so I have set my preferences to make defensive replacements when I have a lead in the 7th inning or later. As you've noted, this exposes more players to injury, but I'm sure that my method has also saved several games. I have to weigh that and also weigh the benefit of giving younger players experience by getting into blowout games (which then also exposes them to injury).
Just an unfortunate roll of the dice, as you've made clear - and yes, the system for injuries is broken and probably not high on SD's priority list for changing - just as I feel that there isn't enough flexibility with the substitution system... yes, you can substitute a younger player in a blowout game (and set what constitutes a blowout), but it's pretty funny when ABE decides to pinch hit a 32 year old for a 33 year old... and then the 32 year old gets injured.
I've had other seasons with a rash of injuries but this has got to be the one with the most 20 game plus ones.
One final thought on the injury system - and something that's been noted before - it really doesn't seem to make much difference what a player's health is as far as being injury prone. Several seasons ago I had an all star/ hof caliber outfielder with A health who never had a clean season (which probably cost him his spot in the hall, as he routinely lost 100 abs a year).
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nice bit of info Spicoli.
My biggest dilemma is not so much pinch hitting, but defensive replacements - my current crop of developing players have yet to find a glove that doesn't have a hole in it - so I have set my preferences to make defensive replacements when I have a lead in the 7th inning or later. As you've noted, this exposes more players to injury, but I'm sure that my method has also saved several games. I have to weigh that and also weigh the benefit of giving younger players experience by getting into blowout games (which then also exposes them to injury).
Just an unfortunate roll of the dice, as you've made clear - and yes, the system for injuries is broken and probably not high on SD's priority list for changing - just as I feel that there isn't enough flexibility with the substitution system... yes, you can substitute a younger player in a blowout game (and set what constitutes a blowout), but it's pretty funny when ABE decides to pinch hit a 32 year old for a 33 year old... and then the 32 year old gets injured.
I've had other seasons with a rash of injuries but this has got to be the one with the most 20 game plus ones.
One final thought on the injury system - and something that's been noted before - it really doesn't seem to make much difference what a player's health is as far as being injury prone. Several seasons ago I had an all star/ hof caliber outfielder with A health who never had a clean season (which probably cost him his spot in the hall, as he routinely lost 100 abs a year).
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