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kevinx
Even I can walk this far to see a game. Of course, I would actually just walk straight down East Capitol instead of huffing it down to Independence like suggested by Yahoo Maps.
And there was much happiness in our nation's capital!
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
God Bless That Bastard Bud Selig
September 30, 2004 at 12:04AM View BBCode
Oh happy days are here again!Even I can walk this far to see a game. Of course, I would actually just walk straight down East Capitol instead of huffing it down to Independence like suggested by Yahoo Maps.
And there was much happiness in our nation's capital!
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by kevinx]
kevinx
September 30, 2004 at 12:15AM View BBCode
Much better! Follow that hot red line straight to heaven! And, if done properly, from home plate you can see the Capitol building!
lvnwrth
BTW, will they keep with tradition and call them the Senators? If not, what will they be called? The Lobbyists might be a good name. Or maybe they could do that inanimate object thing, like soccer where you have the Liberty, and stuff like that. They could be the Washington "For Sale", since everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right.
Is the ownership group sound, or is this another 1961 Senators debacle, where they'll stay for a decade or so and then move to Charlotte or Mexico City?
September 30, 2004 at 12:40AM View BBCode
I think they should play at Rosedale Playground. That sounds so much better than RFK Stadium.BTW, will they keep with tradition and call them the Senators? If not, what will they be called? The Lobbyists might be a good name. Or maybe they could do that inanimate object thing, like soccer where you have the Liberty, and stuff like that. They could be the Washington "For Sale", since everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right.
Is the ownership group sound, or is this another 1961 Senators debacle, where they'll stay for a decade or so and then move to Charlotte or Mexico City?
kevinx
As I'm sure you're well aware, we do not know what they will be called. The Senators and the Greys seem to be the two choices. The "Senators" trademark is owned by the Texas Rangers, so we'll see what happens.
Of course, I am a little bit confused by your statement, "everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right." I'm not sure I understand the reasoning that somehow, say, grocery store clerks or dental assistants in the District are somehow more morally suspect than in Baltimore or Bismark. Could this be some racial slur against the District because of our demographic mix? A xenophobic jab against all of the embassies and international residents of the District? Or perhaps a complaint that where power concentrates, corruption is a natural by-product? Something that never occurs in New York (Wall Street), Los Angeles (Hollywood), Houston (Enron) or anywhere else money and power intersect.
As for the ownership, as you should well know, MLB still owns the team. Of course I hope that the ownership is sound. I especially hope that a cry-baby, ambulance chasing attorney is not part of the ownership. Washington, DC, is a significantly different market than it was in the 60s and 70s and expect the franchise to eventually become successful. As an aside, I don't recall many in Baltimore saying that they should not get the Ravens because two football franchises had left Baltimore in the past.
There is no crying in baseball. Indeed. It would have been easy for me to continue being an Orioles fan in the AL and an Expos/Senators/Greys fan in the NL. But the tantrums thrown by those in Baltimore, and especially Peter Angelos, make it impossible for me to continue as an Orioles fan. I will miss rooting for future Orioles at Bowie (Orioles AA affiliate). But when I am at Camden Yards on Friday, I will put away my Orioles hat for good and put on a Red Sox hat for that game.
September 30, 2004 at 04:01PM View BBCode
Indeed, Rosedale Playground has some of the friendliest crack dealers in all of DC. It does sound better than RFK Stadium.As I'm sure you're well aware, we do not know what they will be called. The Senators and the Greys seem to be the two choices. The "Senators" trademark is owned by the Texas Rangers, so we'll see what happens.
Of course, I am a little bit confused by your statement, "everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right." I'm not sure I understand the reasoning that somehow, say, grocery store clerks or dental assistants in the District are somehow more morally suspect than in Baltimore or Bismark. Could this be some racial slur against the District because of our demographic mix? A xenophobic jab against all of the embassies and international residents of the District? Or perhaps a complaint that where power concentrates, corruption is a natural by-product? Something that never occurs in New York (Wall Street), Los Angeles (Hollywood), Houston (Enron) or anywhere else money and power intersect.
As for the ownership, as you should well know, MLB still owns the team. Of course I hope that the ownership is sound. I especially hope that a cry-baby, ambulance chasing attorney is not part of the ownership. Washington, DC, is a significantly different market than it was in the 60s and 70s and expect the franchise to eventually become successful. As an aside, I don't recall many in Baltimore saying that they should not get the Ravens because two football franchises had left Baltimore in the past.
There is no crying in baseball. Indeed. It would have been easy for me to continue being an Orioles fan in the AL and an Expos/Senators/Greys fan in the NL. But the tantrums thrown by those in Baltimore, and especially Peter Angelos, make it impossible for me to continue as an Orioles fan. I will miss rooting for future Orioles at Bowie (Orioles AA affiliate). But when I am at Camden Yards on Friday, I will put away my Orioles hat for good and put on a Red Sox hat for that game.
lvnwrth
You assume incorrectly. I knew no such thing at the time I posted. I heard the announcement on NPR on my car radio. I did not immediately run home and pull up the MLB website to read the details. What I know, I learned from reading this morning's USA Today.
"Of course, I am a little bit confused by your statement, "everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right." I'm not sure I understand the reasoning that somehow, say, grocery store clerks or dental assistants in the District are somehow more morally suspect than in Baltimore or Bismark."
You're a bit confused? I'd say you have to be A LOT CONFUSED to read between the lines and find all the crap you just wrote. Sorry you're so hypersensitive.
As most normal people understand, my comments were hyperbolic, and obviously directed at the seat of our nation's government and the overpaid hogs, i.e., politicians, lawyers, consultants, bureaucrats, who feed at our federal trough.
"Could this be some racial slur against the District because of our demographic mix? A xenophobic jab against all of the embassies and international residents of the District? Or perhaps a complaint that where power concentrates, corruption is a natural by-product?"
Well it could be the first two, if I was totally wacked out, like you appear to be. But it's not. Your total misperception of what I wrote says much more about you, I fear, than it does about me. I will admit that there is very probably some of the third involved.
"Something that never occurs in New York (Wall Street), Los Angeles (Hollywood), Houston (Enron) or anywhere else money and power intersect. "
I don't recall saying or implying this at all. Again, your wild imagination at work. Of course corruption happens other places. However, in fairness to those other places, much of their corruption (Enron, the S&L scandals, MCI debacle, Adelphia) begins in Washington, where the bureaucrats hired to provide oversight fail to do their jobs; and where the policiticans elected to serve their constitutuents clearly fail to do their jobs.
"As for the ownership, as you should well know, MLB still owns the team. "
Again, in your self-righteous arrogance you assume far too much. The NPR headline I heard said nothing of the ownership situation. Basically it said, "MLB Commissioner Bud Selig announced today that baseball is returning to the nation's capitol." Nothing in that headline about either team nickname or ownership.
"There is no crying in baseball. Indeed. It would have been easy for me to continue being an Orioles fan in the AL and an Expos/Senators/Greys fan in the NL. But the tantrums thrown by those in Baltimore, and especially Peter Angelos, make it impossible for me to continue as an Orioles fan. I will miss rooting for future Orioles at Bowie (Orioles AA affiliate). But when I am at Camden Yards on Friday, I will put away my Orioles hat for good and put on a Red Sox hat for that game. "
Finally, we agree on something. Angelos has been quite the cry-baby. I also think it's ridiculous that the Rangers can continue to own the trademark "Senators". That should belong to Washington, just like "Browns" was left in Cleveland when Art Modell screwed the good fans of that city; and as "Colts" should have been left in Baltimore when Irsay packed up the moving vans in the middle of the night.
I grew up watching Johnny Unitas play with that blue horeshoe on his helmet, and that WAS Baltimore for me. Let Indianapolis find their own name. But I digress...
Sorry you so grossly misinterpreted what I wrote. I'm in fact a moderate Democrat committed to fixing the inner city where I live. My comments were in no way directed at the hard working "normal" folks who live in the District.
(Of course, even a moderate has to wonder a little bit about an electorate that re-elects a crack using mayor, and then later elects him to the city council.)
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by lvnwrth]
September 30, 2004 at 10:43PM View BBCode
"As I'm sure you're well aware, we do not know what they will be called. The Senators and the Greys seem to be the two choices. "You assume incorrectly. I knew no such thing at the time I posted. I heard the announcement on NPR on my car radio. I did not immediately run home and pull up the MLB website to read the details. What I know, I learned from reading this morning's USA Today.
"Of course, I am a little bit confused by your statement, "everyone in the District is for sale if the price is right." I'm not sure I understand the reasoning that somehow, say, grocery store clerks or dental assistants in the District are somehow more morally suspect than in Baltimore or Bismark."
You're a bit confused? I'd say you have to be A LOT CONFUSED to read between the lines and find all the crap you just wrote. Sorry you're so hypersensitive.
As most normal people understand, my comments were hyperbolic, and obviously directed at the seat of our nation's government and the overpaid hogs, i.e., politicians, lawyers, consultants, bureaucrats, who feed at our federal trough.
"Could this be some racial slur against the District because of our demographic mix? A xenophobic jab against all of the embassies and international residents of the District? Or perhaps a complaint that where power concentrates, corruption is a natural by-product?"
Well it could be the first two, if I was totally wacked out, like you appear to be. But it's not. Your total misperception of what I wrote says much more about you, I fear, than it does about me. I will admit that there is very probably some of the third involved.
"Something that never occurs in New York (Wall Street), Los Angeles (Hollywood), Houston (Enron) or anywhere else money and power intersect. "
I don't recall saying or implying this at all. Again, your wild imagination at work. Of course corruption happens other places. However, in fairness to those other places, much of their corruption (Enron, the S&L scandals, MCI debacle, Adelphia) begins in Washington, where the bureaucrats hired to provide oversight fail to do their jobs; and where the policiticans elected to serve their constitutuents clearly fail to do their jobs.
"As for the ownership, as you should well know, MLB still owns the team. "
Again, in your self-righteous arrogance you assume far too much. The NPR headline I heard said nothing of the ownership situation. Basically it said, "MLB Commissioner Bud Selig announced today that baseball is returning to the nation's capitol." Nothing in that headline about either team nickname or ownership.
"There is no crying in baseball. Indeed. It would have been easy for me to continue being an Orioles fan in the AL and an Expos/Senators/Greys fan in the NL. But the tantrums thrown by those in Baltimore, and especially Peter Angelos, make it impossible for me to continue as an Orioles fan. I will miss rooting for future Orioles at Bowie (Orioles AA affiliate). But when I am at Camden Yards on Friday, I will put away my Orioles hat for good and put on a Red Sox hat for that game. "
Finally, we agree on something. Angelos has been quite the cry-baby. I also think it's ridiculous that the Rangers can continue to own the trademark "Senators". That should belong to Washington, just like "Browns" was left in Cleveland when Art Modell screwed the good fans of that city; and as "Colts" should have been left in Baltimore when Irsay packed up the moving vans in the middle of the night.
I grew up watching Johnny Unitas play with that blue horeshoe on his helmet, and that WAS Baltimore for me. Let Indianapolis find their own name. But I digress...
Sorry you so grossly misinterpreted what I wrote. I'm in fact a moderate Democrat committed to fixing the inner city where I live. My comments were in no way directed at the hard working "normal" folks who live in the District.
(Of course, even a moderate has to wonder a little bit about an electorate that re-elects a crack using mayor, and then later elects him to the city council.)
[Edited on 9-30-2004 by lvnwrth]
Redwolf4
You can't blame the Baltimore ownership for trying to protect their mandated and agreed upon territory, however I support a team in Washington. I just won't pull for them.
October 02, 2004 at 01:53AM View BBCode
Not that it matters, but I'm a conservative Republican in Hollywood that still pulls for the O's, against all Washington teams, especially the Redskins, and will pull against whoever they are going to be baseballwise in Washington. But I pull against the NL anyway.You can't blame the Baltimore ownership for trying to protect their mandated and agreed upon territory, however I support a team in Washington. I just won't pull for them.
Legalgeek
October 03, 2004 at 01:10PM View BBCode
I thought "Conservative Repuplican in California" was an oxymoron but I'm relieved to know that someone with sense is out there!
Redwolf4
October 03, 2004 at 04:21PM View BBCode
I moved out here from North Carolina, if that explains it.
caltex123
October 03, 2004 at 04:39PM View BBCode
i happen to be a conservative republican in california as well, but i moved from texasPages: 1