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ChuckMuncie
Was salivating over Tampa's predicament
February 17, 2017 at 07:34PM View BBCode
Was once again you have managed to manipulate the system to your advantage. How do you manage to be in the first or second position in the draft every year? You are someone to be emulated and admired, if win at all costs are to be looked up to. The same tactics every year trade an immediate first rounder for a first rounder down the road from a team on the decline. Every team that Was wants to trade draft picks with should be insulted because they are betting that you will have a horrible record by the time that the draft pick becomes valid. I bet you wish you had been nicer to me now since it looks like I will have the first overall draft pick this year, for the first time since I have entered this tainted league. Unless there is some way you can have me removed or murdered to get at that pick. Is that on the board? You are an inspiration.
bdavids28
February 17, 2017 at 09:52PM View BBCode
Which B+ overall 32 year old will you be taking with the #1 pick?
Chicago13
February 18, 2017 at 02:29PM View BBCode
Dude it's a game not a big deal. Win some lose some.
Chicago13
February 18, 2017 at 05:15PM View BBCode
Dude it's a game not a big deal. Win some lose some.
cone1
TL/DR. Calm the hell down you weirdo.
February 19, 2017 at 01:34AM View BBCode
Chuck are you under the care of a physician? You need to calm down. Bdavids plays completely above the board. It is his job to fleece other teams for high draft picks. It is the other players job not to get fleeced. He has made probably the best dynasty this league has ever seen by getting a high pick almost every year, sometimes two or three. I think all the owners who have been here a while know this, but we don't care because he beats us by the rules. I have traded with him and it's always been fair or there wouldn't have been a trade. That's what trading is about, somebody values a certain player higher than a number 1 pick. Now having played for a while, you would have to back the truck up to get a 1 from me, but different mangers place different value in things, and god knows, I ain't exactly hitting it out of the park.TL/DR. Calm the hell down you weirdo.
ChuckMuncie
February 19, 2017 at 07:00AM View BBCode
Weirdo? Does that mean I'm not like you? Thank the lord for small little miracles. Do you know a good physician or will you not share the one treating your obvious malfunction?
npstamps
February 19, 2017 at 10:46PM View BBCode
What is your purpose here? It doesn't seem to be competitive, since you clearly show you don't have a clue. You seem to have more enjoyment trolling and mocking the other owners, especially b Davids. I have never met or spoken to him other than through this game but he has been nothing but fair in my dealings with him. I suspect none of the other owners personally know him other than through this game. We are all in this (with the likely exception of you) to build a winning team, and as cone has stated, bdavids is not forcing anyone to deal with him. I have traded him #1 picks in the past, but almost always received a more present 1 for a future pick, or for a player I thought would greatly improve my team at the time. I have been in the TRL from its inception, and with the possible exception of 1950s robot (for those who were around with him in the league), you seem to add nothing but comic relief and insults to the other members. So again, if you are so unhappy with this league, and you clearly don't seem to know what you're doing, why are you here??
ChuckMuncie
February 19, 2017 at 11:15PM View BBCode
I see in bdavids what I see every day, that is people who are caught up in results rather than ethics. Is it weird to expect people to abide by simple ethical standards of conduct that ensure equality and fairness? If everyone was trading CP's and had a baseball buddy to ensure their competitive edge then I would have no qualm with his behavior. But what I see is him taking every advantage of a system that does not even recognize some of the behaviors as valid and enforceable, which is the exact definition of cheating. Can you explain why the entire league is possibly going to change from a way of handling the minor leagues that allows this unenforceable behavior that only a very few owners even recognize as ethical to a system which makes the exact kind of behavior that I question every time I speak out much less likely. The only reason that I can see that admin does not just flat out disallow what bdavid and his crony do every season is that they do not want to lose the cheaters as well as the owners who abide by simple ethical standards. Your accusations of weirdness and robots are a defense mechanism against being held accountable for what I consider to be a fundamental lack of ethical behavior. I could care less what you do, I can only live according to what I consider to be a moral and ethical standard of conduct. I originally brought up the subject about CP trades and what they really are when I first came into this league and Bdavid and Bayside tag teamed me with insults and derogatory statements that seemed a bit prejudiced and defensive. I became very interested in this over the top reaction to a simple inquiry and have been exploring it ever since. The real question is why do you seem to have such a hard time with my observations about a phenomena that has been shown to be at the least controversial and at the most substantiated by what is happening in the league right now as blatantly unethical and unwanted.
ChuckMuncie
February 19, 2017 at 11:30PM View BBCode
One more thing that is at the crux of this matter. Do you only consider it enjoyable to compete in anything if you win? I have played chess many times and truly enjoyed myself without winning. I feel I am very competitive in everything that I do. I have survived quite a long time through many situations that would have finished other people in a heart beat. Why is it so important to you that I meet your standards for playing this game in a certain way as long as I am not breaking any rules or lashing out at some one for simply asking a question. If bdavid and Bayside had been even slightly civilized in their response to my inquiry I would probably not be so vehement in my pursuit for justice. What really pisses me off more than anything is this lame ass justification for what is slowly being accepted as unwanted behavior in this league. I wonder if bdavid or anyone else who has used this completely lame way of building a team will ever admit that they were behaving without scrupples or consideration for anything other than some sort of warped ego boost by winning at what should be a diversion instead of a validation of oneself in some twisted way.
npstamps
Finally,if the CPS are legislated out, will you still have a beef about anything else in the league, or will you have another agenda?
February 20, 2017 at 12:35AM View BBCode
The point about CPs is that Simdynasty has this in the rules. Any trades require 2 teams to agree. I may be wrong, but I don't think bdavids knew anyone before joining the TRL. I don't particularly like the idea, although I may have made a trade or 2 involving them in the past, but only because I felt the return I was getting for giving up, say 5CPs for a year was worth it. I also don't feel that the number of CPs trades throughout the years were all that many. While bdavids may have made many trades involving #1 picks, the trades involving CPs were very few in comparison. I also think that the tone of the responses you got were only because of the tone of the conspiratorial responses you sent. Nobody gets any benefit for bdavids winning other than bdavids. There are no cash prizes, no trophies. But while we are all in this for the enjoyment of the game, I think the intent is for everyone to build and play a winning team.Finally,if the CPS are legislated out, will you still have a beef about anything else in the league, or will you have another agenda?
compton10101
February 20, 2017 at 02:53AM View BBCode
COMPTON haz 2 say dat chuck soundz fairly coherent an makez sum sense in last 2 postz.........still thank dat chuck outta consult da DSM V fo sum personal insite......but whateva..........COMPTON thinkz chucko iz sayin dat sum of yall take da fun outta dis by da way thangz git handled...........an COMPTON haz no issue wit win now or CP tradin......but callin out an owna who playz an stayz juss aint rite...........in sum weird kinda way............COMPTON haz yo back 2 an extent chucko..............COMPTON
ChuckMuncie
February 20, 2017 at 07:46AM View BBCode
I would like to hear from bdavid what his justification is for using another teams resources to improve his team.
bdavids28
I understand that isn't an answer you've found acceptable, but it really is that simple. I didn't invent CP trades, and wasn't the first to use them in the TRL. You have singled me out as the object of your obsession over this issue, and that is your choice.
When CP trades are made illegal, which looks possible as the recent troubles in the Snider League may be the catalyst for a big change, I will be just fine with that. I don't know if your attitude towards others will change in that case, but that's up to you.
Like Cone and Stamps have said, I have never had a problem with any other owner on this site, for all your talk of how unethical you deem me to be. And you treat Chicago13 and Chip with such contempt for having the gall to trade with me. We are all big boys who can handle ourselves, but try not to let your obsession with me spread to others who are also great owners who have never caused problems. The fact that you name Bayside as an owner who has treated you poorly, shows that you live in a fantasy world in which you are this totally reasonable guy who gets attacked in response for your innocent, inquisitive nature. I have been here for almost 10 years in real time, and during this time I have found Bayside to be as nice a guy as you will find online.
You can respond to the above paragraph with a snide accusation of real life collusion or something, but every single problematic exchange here that you have been a part of, you have instigated and escalated yourself. And your posting history (or at least those that Admin has not seen fit to remove and issue you a warning over), shows this clearly. I have never before seen someone so angry over an online game. Former owner "1950s Robot" was mentioned earlier in this thread, but with him I think it was anger towards the game engine itself rather than other owners.
I don't think I can be any more clear than this. Take it as you will, but I don't plan on repeating myself more than necessary as your history has also shown that a clear explanation - from me, or anyone else - has accomplished nothing. But, here it is for the record anyway.
[Edited on 2-20-2017 by bdavids28]
February 20, 2017 at 09:06AM View BBCode
As long as CP trades are allowed, they are a tool that any owner can use to improve their team.I understand that isn't an answer you've found acceptable, but it really is that simple. I didn't invent CP trades, and wasn't the first to use them in the TRL. You have singled me out as the object of your obsession over this issue, and that is your choice.
When CP trades are made illegal, which looks possible as the recent troubles in the Snider League may be the catalyst for a big change, I will be just fine with that. I don't know if your attitude towards others will change in that case, but that's up to you.
Like Cone and Stamps have said, I have never had a problem with any other owner on this site, for all your talk of how unethical you deem me to be. And you treat Chicago13 and Chip with such contempt for having the gall to trade with me. We are all big boys who can handle ourselves, but try not to let your obsession with me spread to others who are also great owners who have never caused problems. The fact that you name Bayside as an owner who has treated you poorly, shows that you live in a fantasy world in which you are this totally reasonable guy who gets attacked in response for your innocent, inquisitive nature. I have been here for almost 10 years in real time, and during this time I have found Bayside to be as nice a guy as you will find online.
You can respond to the above paragraph with a snide accusation of real life collusion or something, but every single problematic exchange here that you have been a part of, you have instigated and escalated yourself. And your posting history (or at least those that Admin has not seen fit to remove and issue you a warning over), shows this clearly. I have never before seen someone so angry over an online game. Former owner "1950s Robot" was mentioned earlier in this thread, but with him I think it was anger towards the game engine itself rather than other owners.
I don't think I can be any more clear than this. Take it as you will, but I don't plan on repeating myself more than necessary as your history has also shown that a clear explanation - from me, or anyone else - has accomplished nothing. But, here it is for the record anyway.
[Edited on 2-20-2017 by bdavids28]
alan21615
KEYBOARD WARRIORS ASSEMBLE!!!
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February 20, 2017 at 04:25PM View BBCode
To fight injustice! To malign our foes! To brandish the most holy Qwerty to conquer all enemies!KEYBOARD WARRIORS ASSEMBLE!!!
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ChuckMuncie
February 20, 2017 at 04:48PM View BBCode
If it is that simple why has it been taken to the extreme of changing the entire simdynasty code to correct this simple problem. It actually seems quite complex, because it involves human behavior which has been shown to be the most problematic variable throughout history. Controlling one's own behavior is what constitutes ethics and morality. Back in the 60's it was acceptable to treat other human beings with contempt and homicidal intentions. This has been shown to be human behavior without ethical or moral boundaries, would you admit that this is true? Just because something is allowable does not mean that it is moral or ethical or fair or promotes justice, would you admit that this is true? I can bring up the posts which support my contention that you and Bayside were abusive when I originally brought up the subject of CP trades. So who is in a fantasy world? This "obsession" with CP trades not you, has brought about a healthy debate about the subject and in my opinion helped to convince the powers that be that it needs to be changed. Numerous owners have admitted that they used to believe in them but that they have become so distasteful that they are thinking about leaving the leagues which continue to use them. Also, your statement that you are fine with the new minor league system that would discourage this type of behavior is false since I brought up the possibility of a league vote and you dropped the boom on that with a statement that you didn't want to give anyone false hope of changing the current system because you were going to vote against it even if the entire league voted for the change. Who is living in a fantasy world? You continue to make up facts to support a perspective that is slowly losing validity and support. This may ultimately be your downfall, not so much in this simulation, but in the real world of consequences.
bdavids28
It takes a unanimous leaguewide vote to convert to a private league, which as I understand it also comes with a different pay rate to play in it. That vote did not pass, and it was not a 15-1 margin either.
On the other hand, if Admin decides to make a sitewide change to dynasty leagues, along with a change to System 5 minors, that is a completely separate matter. There was trouble with an illegally used player in the Duke Snider League. More people are against CP trading as a result. I can appreciate that.
This really isn't difficult. I suspected you would not accept the answer you said you were asking for, and this proved to be the case.
February 20, 2017 at 06:37PM View BBCode
To summarize, I am just fine with CP trades existing. I am also just fine with Admin deciding to remove them from the game. I enjoy SD either way.It takes a unanimous leaguewide vote to convert to a private league, which as I understand it also comes with a different pay rate to play in it. That vote did not pass, and it was not a 15-1 margin either.
On the other hand, if Admin decides to make a sitewide change to dynasty leagues, along with a change to System 5 minors, that is a completely separate matter. There was trouble with an illegally used player in the Duke Snider League. More people are against CP trading as a result. I can appreciate that.
This really isn't difficult. I suspected you would not accept the answer you said you were asking for, and this proved to be the case.
compton10101
February 20, 2017 at 07:44PM View BBCode
yall chucko feelz dismissed an slighted............an maybe he haz been............COMPTON aint sure why it runz so deep fo chucko but show da man sum propz fo speakin outta against sumthin he thinkz iz wrong............justifyin it juss marginalizez what he iz sayin.......or maybe yall dont care an r pushin him 2 leave...........COMPTON thinkz he mite wanna seek sum "counsel" but yall dont help when yall treat him like dat............memo 2 chucko............COMPTON seez yo point.............COMPTON
Bayside
February 20, 2017 at 09:14PM View BBCode
We traded robot for a victim and a racist. We should fire our GM.
compton10101
February 20, 2017 at 09:46PM View BBCode
COMPTON thinkz y'all should look in da mirra befo slingin dat....... COMPTON
compton10101
February 20, 2017 at 10:28PM View BBCode
an bayside yallz insultin 1 of da best in sim history..............COMPTON
ChipArm
I don't recall him attacking anyone but ABE (who is a computer, who he thought was out to get him at times.) He also got ticked because a few people, whom I don't believe are here anymore, gave him some advice in what he considered a demeaning manner. (It might or not have been.)
His rants were, for the most parts, venting for him, and sometimes amusing for us to read. But again, his venom was at ABE (automated baseball engine) and the SD game itself.
The whole player development system does not work. You could trade for the best 5 prospects in SIM, and only 3 could MAX develop in the minors. Which is NOT how real life works.
February 25, 2017 at 03:47AM View BBCode
I will not let you malign 1950's ROBOT.I don't recall him attacking anyone but ABE (who is a computer, who he thought was out to get him at times.) He also got ticked because a few people, whom I don't believe are here anymore, gave him some advice in what he considered a demeaning manner. (It might or not have been.)
His rants were, for the most parts, venting for him, and sometimes amusing for us to read. But again, his venom was at ABE (automated baseball engine) and the SD game itself.
The whole player development system does not work. You could trade for the best 5 prospects in SIM, and only 3 could MAX develop in the minors. Which is NOT how real life works.
compton10101
February 25, 2017 at 03:40PM View BBCode
there iz 2 much of dat demeanin crap dat goez down on dis site.............2 many think dat dis site iz juss fo them an noone else.........so they opinion matta mo an look down on opinionz an life situationz dat don't fit inta they world view.........pretty shallow when those kind hi 5 each otha an say grate job an then turnaround an demean an belittle people who aint like they own...............worst part iz they all defend it an go trumpanzee an turnit around an say thingz like no they aint da racist COMPTON iz.............typical redirect an deflect.............sure makez tha non trumpanzee crowd wanna hang round dis site fo realz...............COMPTON
compton10101
February 25, 2017 at 06:27PM View BBCode
an aint nobody from dat crowd lissenin 2 Gucci Mane up in here............COMPTONPages: 1