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GreenAndGold

Playing out of position and correlation to development

February 08, 2017 at 07:49PM View BBCode

I know that playing a player out of position affects their range & arm ratings in games, resulting in reduced performance. But does it also affect their ability to convert on major league ICs in the off-season?
TheBigKahuna0

February 08, 2017 at 09:24PM View BBCode

I don't think so. Nothing in the game guide says that it does and looking at some of the guys I've converted backs that up. I had a young player convert to catcher and it took an extra 2 full seasons to get there fully. His conversion rate looks normal to me.

http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=11428068&statsorimps=imps

Another guy that I moved from 2B to 1B seemed to convert his IC's just fine, although he was a bit older.

http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=11280684&statsorimps=imps

So the answer is either no or it's a minor penalty.
Beanballs

February 08, 2017 at 10:05PM View BBCode

If players play out of position, it is a 10% penalty on earning ICs, not converting them:


http://rules.simdynasty.com/index.php/Sim_Dynasty_Rulebook#Earning_Major_League_ICs

*Batters

ICs are calculated after every game and presented as a cumulative total on the Player Card and Improvement Report on the Stats Page. Major League ICs are earned during the season but are not converted until the off-season. Before accounting for mentoring, a major league position player will earn Improvement Chances for achieving different targets in a game. They are: 0.1 ICs for being on the roster, 0.075 for starting the game, 0.075 for batting at least once, 0.075 for playing at least 6 defensive innings, and 0.075 for finishing the game. If a player plays out of position, he will receive a 10 percent penalty in ICs accrued during that game. In addition, these will be adjusted for player health so that a player with poor health will get slightly more ICs. The goal is for a batter who plays every game to receive 64.8 ICs, before mentoring.
GreenAndGold

February 09, 2017 at 12:12AM View BBCode

Thanks Beanballs, super helpful. A 10% drop off is fairly significant - I see that the catcher prospect you posted, TheBigKahuna, lost about 14 ICs over those 2 seasons he was still converting. I'm considering a C conversion for this guy (http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?player=nobody&mode=stats&id=12335734) and was considering moving him up now since he's OS23 and I need the space in my minors, but that will probably be a good 3 seasons of reduced opportunities.
chbutt

February 09, 2017 at 12:50AM View BBCode

I was overloaded with OFs and moved this guy to 2B and he had 68 IC for the season, equal to his highest minor league total. Now he is A+ at 2B so I assume there will be no penalty now. http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12296248&statsorimps=imps

I did the same thing with another guy in a salary league and he had less IC's than he had in the minors but he was 27 so I didn't hurt much.
GreenAndGold

February 09, 2017 at 03:58AM View BBCode

He was moving from CF to 2b, which only takes a couple of months of playing time to convert, so that's a bit different scenario than to catcher, which takes several years. 68 ICs is nice though - there wouldn't be a penalty if he's A+ there now.

http://www.simdynasty.com/posgrid.html
Michael1

February 12, 2017 at 01:25PM View BBCode

I have seen a player have a lower batting success during a conversion as well.
dirtdevil

February 12, 2017 at 07:32PM View BBCode

there is no connection between position changes and offensive performance.

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