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DeepThreat
Total and complete BS!
January 09, 2017 at 06:54PM View BBCode
So, how realistic is it that a team that gave up 7 or more runs in just 21 out of 162 games... suddenly has back-to-back games in the playoffs where they give up 7 and 8 runs in single innings?
Klewis1994
It was a setup for mass disappointment for the Cubs. You won the series! The Cubs players scored all those runs, then got a big head, and then collapsed the next 4 games.
:D
January 09, 2017 at 10:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by DeepThreat
So, how realistic is it that a team that gave up 7 or more runs in just 21 out of 162 games... suddenly has back-to-back games in the playoffs where they give up 7 and 8 runs in single innings?
It was a setup for mass disappointment for the Cubs. You won the series! The Cubs players scored all those runs, then got a big head, and then collapsed the next 4 games.
:D
pogomogo10
January 09, 2017 at 10:48PM View BBCode
waite to the last out is made of the last game before getting so steamed up about things lol
DeepThreat
I'm not complaining about losing a couple of games where my offense was nonexistent. I'm complaining about back-to-back unrealistic situations which should never show up in a well-programmed simulation.
This one isn't as bad as my other playoff team losing because I had two pitchers combine for 16 runs in 1.2 innings over 3 games, including 3 3-R HR and a GS. Heck, they combined for 7 runs (1 3-R HR and a GS) in 2/3 of the 7th inninng of the Game 5 finisher. This caused 3 losses, all of which I had been winning prior to these pen blowups. We're talking about A-/A- and A-/B+ pitchers, against a team I dominated in 5 of the 7 series during the season.
[Edited on 1-9-2017 by DeepThreat]
January 09, 2017 at 11:18PM View BBCode
Originally posted by pogomogo10
waite to the last out is made of the last game before getting so steamed up about things lol
I'm not complaining about losing a couple of games where my offense was nonexistent. I'm complaining about back-to-back unrealistic situations which should never show up in a well-programmed simulation.
This one isn't as bad as my other playoff team losing because I had two pitchers combine for 16 runs in 1.2 innings over 3 games, including 3 3-R HR and a GS. Heck, they combined for 7 runs (1 3-R HR and a GS) in 2/3 of the 7th inninng of the Game 5 finisher. This caused 3 losses, all of which I had been winning prior to these pen blowups. We're talking about A-/A- and A-/B+ pitchers, against a team I dominated in 5 of the 7 series during the season.
[Edited on 1-9-2017 by DeepThreat]
hituon4hed
January 09, 2017 at 11:50PM View BBCode
You had my number this season for whatever reason, but yeah my offense is capable of those big blow-ups. Ugh, but yet again this team disappoints in the post-season. Congrats on the win.
Klewis1994
That's good 'ol ABE for you. We have all had this kind of silliness happen to us. Sometimes the silliness works in your favor and against you. ABE is a mean old fool. lol
January 10, 2017 at 12:19AM View BBCode
Originally posted by DeepThreat
Originally posted by pogomogo10
waite to the last out is made of the last game before getting so steamed up about things lol
I'm not complaining about losing a couple of games where my offense was nonexistent. I'm complaining about back-to-back unrealistic situations which should never show up in a well-programmed simulation.
This one isn't as bad as my other playoff team losing because I had two pitchers combine for 16 runs in 1.2 innings over 3 games, including 3 3-R HR and a GS. Heck, they combined for 7 runs (1 3-R HR and a GS) in 2/3 of the 7th inninng of the Game 5 finisher. This caused 3 losses, all of which I had been winning prior to these pen blowups. We're talking about A-/A- and A-/B+ pitchers, against a team I dominated in 5 of the 7 series during the season.
[Edited on 1-9-2017 by DeepThreat]
That's good 'ol ABE for you. We have all had this kind of silliness happen to us. Sometimes the silliness works in your favor and against you. ABE is a mean old fool. lol
DeepThreat
January 10, 2017 at 07:22PM View BBCode
Looks like Compton was the victim of a couple of seriously unrealistic innings in the WS.
compton10101010
January 10, 2017 at 09:11PM View BBCode
COMPTON haz dun wut othaz complained COMPTON neva did an iz buildin a team........team juss aint there yet............COMPTON iz close..........will look 2 own dis thang next seazon..............COMPTON
DeepThreat
Of the 25 guys you had on your WS roster, you personally acquired 6 of them. Taking over a team that was already on the verge of competing with 19 guys that got you to the WS after 3 years... isn't rebuilding a team. It's doing the same exact thing you have always done, taking advantage of a build someone else did then taking all the credit. Until you complete a total overhaul of a bad or aging team, you have not rebuilt anything. Until you personally acquire no fewer than 18 of the players which lead you to success, you have not rebuilt anything.
January 12, 2017 at 11:43PM View BBCode
Compton, you took over typainter's team in 2023. Every single pitcher in your rotation was already on the team. The only guys in your starting lineup you have added are Suziki and Molitor. You have added only Farrell and Langston in your pen. The only acquisitions you have made for your bench are Rock and Jones.Of the 25 guys you had on your WS roster, you personally acquired 6 of them. Taking over a team that was already on the verge of competing with 19 guys that got you to the WS after 3 years... isn't rebuilding a team. It's doing the same exact thing you have always done, taking advantage of a build someone else did then taking all the credit. Until you complete a total overhaul of a bad or aging team, you have not rebuilt anything. Until you personally acquire no fewer than 18 of the players which lead you to success, you have not rebuilt anything.
compton10101010
January 13, 2017 at 04:04AM View BBCode
COMPTON haz no illuzion where u stand regardin COMPTON.........Dis team iz a rebuild there aint no guarantee any of dis $hit would work out..........but COMPTON now knowz dat da magic # iz now 18 to prove 2 da threat dat COMPTON iz legit...............have a grate seazon............COMPTON
DeepThreat
The fact is, it's not a rebuild unless you actually rebuild the team. You've not done that here. You still haven't done anything particularly special here, as a very good owner already set you up for what should be a long competitive run... if you don't screw it up. Nor have you greatly improved the team with your trades.
Until you take a bad or aging team and acquire at least 18 of the 25 players that lead it to a competitive run, you haven't rebuilt anything. You've merely claimed success on the work of previous owners. I still question whether you can do that or not with any real success. Taking this young core team and not screwing up, but slightly improving it without completely destroying its future is a big plus in that direction. I would like to see you take your chances with a true rebuild at some point, and do so with the plan of prolonged success... and not just a hot run for a handful of seasons. In my opinion, it would be intriguing to see how and if you can adjust your typical strategy and adapt to such a goal.
I will give credit where it is due, though, and say that you had a point in previous debates with your taking already built, excellent teams and making them a bit better and ensuring they have as good of a chance at winning the WS as any other teams in other leagues. The problem is, that insurance came at a high price of leaving those teams severely weakened for the next owner. You are quite skilled at optimizing a pre-built team in the short time permitted with burning the candle at both ends.
January 13, 2017 at 05:15AM View BBCode
Compton, I'm not trying to be negative here. I'm pointing out the fact that if you do virtually nothing at all to "build" a team, it's not a rebuild. Regardless of what claims you may wish to make about guarantees. You've done nothing but add two mediocre RP, a backup C, a good platoon OF, and debatibly the two worst hitters in your lineup. You call it a rebuild only because that team lost 111 games the year before you took it over. That doesn't mean squat. Any owner could have picked up that team when you did and lead it to the playoffs in 2-3 years without doing anything at all but calling up the prospects already there and drafting well.The fact is, it's not a rebuild unless you actually rebuild the team. You've not done that here. You still haven't done anything particularly special here, as a very good owner already set you up for what should be a long competitive run... if you don't screw it up. Nor have you greatly improved the team with your trades.
Until you take a bad or aging team and acquire at least 18 of the 25 players that lead it to a competitive run, you haven't rebuilt anything. You've merely claimed success on the work of previous owners. I still question whether you can do that or not with any real success. Taking this young core team and not screwing up, but slightly improving it without completely destroying its future is a big plus in that direction. I would like to see you take your chances with a true rebuild at some point, and do so with the plan of prolonged success... and not just a hot run for a handful of seasons. In my opinion, it would be intriguing to see how and if you can adjust your typical strategy and adapt to such a goal.
I will give credit where it is due, though, and say that you had a point in previous debates with your taking already built, excellent teams and making them a bit better and ensuring they have as good of a chance at winning the WS as any other teams in other leagues. The problem is, that insurance came at a high price of leaving those teams severely weakened for the next owner. You are quite skilled at optimizing a pre-built team in the short time permitted with burning the candle at both ends.
Klewis1994
January 14, 2017 at 10:45PM View BBCode
And it's not easy to do at all. I own a team in the Albert Pujols league now for 40+ seasons. I went through several full and total rebuilds by trading and managing the draft before I finally got the team 2 WS Championships just in the past 2 seasons. When I picked up that team over 40 seasons ago, that team was in shambles. Lots of patience and, unfortunately, making trades where I felt like I was handing over my entire life. It's not easy.Pages: 1