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DannyReguero
so when you have those players with red letter contact and power but B- speed or so, what do you do with them?
I'm having some sucess (trial league, small sample size...) with playing this type of player in the #3 spot. since everybody else around him is supposed to have good speed and be the best players in the team then #3 hitter is actually the one that needs speed the least IMO.
#1 and #2 need to get on base in the first place which is most aided by speed (infield singles and beating the throw to first) and then get on scoring position;
#4 will traditionally be the best power hitter so #3's stolen bases will often be inconsequential;
#5 will leadoff innings more often;
#8 will use speed more effectively on the SP's bunts...
Thoughts?
Lineup spot where speed is the least important?
July 15, 2016 at 10:36PM View BBCode
One thing I learned from reading this forum is that Speed is one of the most important skills in this game.so when you have those players with red letter contact and power but B- speed or so, what do you do with them?
I'm having some sucess (trial league, small sample size...) with playing this type of player in the #3 spot. since everybody else around him is supposed to have good speed and be the best players in the team then #3 hitter is actually the one that needs speed the least IMO.
#1 and #2 need to get on base in the first place which is most aided by speed (infield singles and beating the throw to first) and then get on scoring position;
#4 will traditionally be the best power hitter so #3's stolen bases will often be inconsequential;
#5 will leadoff innings more often;
#8 will use speed more effectively on the SP's bunts...
Thoughts?
reddogs
July 16, 2016 at 02:07PM View BBCode
Interesting theory, but remember that speed has a significant influence on batting averages, not just on base paths.
phen0m
July 16, 2016 at 02:13PM View BBCode
All depends on how the rest of the lineup shakes up but a lot of times for a more contact heavy lowish speed guy i will bat him leadoff as it negates the tons of double plays he would ground into elsewhere. And for a power heavy guy usually 7th.
WillyD
As a side note, unless one of those red letters is an A+, B- speed isn't going to cut it. Low to mid A/A with B- speed is not very good in a pay league. A-/A+ is good, but A+/A- does better with red letter speed.
[Edited on 7-16-2016 by WillyD]
July 16, 2016 at 02:17PM View BBCode
I'd bat him 5th or 6th, unless you don't have a better hitter, then maybe 4th. I don't want him hitting into too many DPs before my cleanup hitter has a chance to hit.As a side note, unless one of those red letters is an A+, B- speed isn't going to cut it. Low to mid A/A with B- speed is not very good in a pay league. A-/A+ is good, but A+/A- does better with red letter speed.
[Edited on 7-16-2016 by WillyD]
MDorf
July 16, 2016 at 03:03PM View BBCode
I usually bat my slowest guy 8th, unless he is an otherwise very good hitter. I never steal with the pitcher at bat, so I like to put a guy I don't want stealing in the first place in that spot.
nuzzy62
July 16, 2016 at 09:38PM View BBCode
I usually bat my slowest guy either third or fifth. It's crucial having A+ speed guys at the bottom of the order because it normally takes more hits to get them around the bases rather than having a homer and they can trot around.
ccox
July 17, 2016 at 01:53AM View BBCode
My lowest-speed hitter's batting leadoff vRHP...B+/A- with B+ speed, not the typical makeup of a lead-off hitter, I know, but the last thing I want is a big fat GIDP.
ballmark
#1 = 2 votes
#3 = 1 vote
#4 = 1 vote, unless better hitter available
#5 = 2 votes
#6 = 1 vote
#7 = 1 vote
#8 = 1 vote
Maybe you should have asked where you *shouldn't* put a low speed guy...?
In other words, DannyReguero, your theory looks as good as anything else here. Take the advice that resonates most truly with your own sense of the game.
July 17, 2016 at 03:49AM View BBCode
So that's:#1 = 2 votes
#3 = 1 vote
#4 = 1 vote, unless better hitter available
#5 = 2 votes
#6 = 1 vote
#7 = 1 vote
#8 = 1 vote
Maybe you should have asked where you *shouldn't* put a low speed guy...?
In other words, DannyReguero, your theory looks as good as anything else here. Take the advice that resonates most truly with your own sense of the game.
phen0m
#2 i guess :lol:
July 17, 2016 at 10:12PM View BBCode
Originally posted by ballmark
Maybe you should have asked where you *shouldn't* put a low speed guy...?
#2 i guess :lol:
ccox
Where a slowpoke goes depends on many factors...the contact, the power, the quality other batters, etc.
July 17, 2016 at 10:32PM View BBCode
I agree with phenom there (generally). And I also agree with ballmark.Where a slowpoke goes depends on many factors...the contact, the power, the quality other batters, etc.
DannyReguero
yes I liked everyone's input anyway. it's a contentious topic since you wanna have good speed in the first place.
avoiding GIDPs is a must though. IMO where you shouldn't put him is at #2.
July 18, 2016 at 04:20PM View BBCode
Originally posted by ballmark
So that's:
#1 = 2 votes
#3 = 1 vote
#4 = 1 vote, unless better hitter available
#5 = 2 votes
#6 = 1 vote
#7 = 1 vote
#8 = 1 vote
Maybe you should have asked where you *shouldn't* put a low speed guy...?
In other words, DannyReguero, your theory looks as good as anything else here. Take the advice that resonates most truly with your own sense of the game.
yes I liked everyone's input anyway. it's a contentious topic since you wanna have good speed in the first place.
avoiding GIDPs is a must though. IMO where you shouldn't put him is at #2.
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