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tworoosters
Cleveland are leading when he enters, they never trail, he gets nobody out and yet gets credit for the win. Does ABE just give it to whoever the second pitcher to enter the game is since the starter didn't go five ?
How does Olivares get the win ?
June 12, 2015 at 08:29PM View BBCode
I know the sim doesn't make subjective judgements about a winning pitcher as mlb does in these cases but still how does Olivares get [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=29745497&cityid=4]this win[/url].Cleveland are leading when he enters, they never trail, he gets nobody out and yet gets credit for the win. Does ABE just give it to whoever the second pitcher to enter the game is since the starter didn't go five ?
dirtdevil
I think so, yes.
June 12, 2015 at 08:36PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
Does ABE just give it to whoever the second pitcher to enter the game is since the starter didn't go five ?
I think so, yes.
ccox
I think that's how imabundy2 got 60 wins in a season with [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?player=nobody&mode=stats&id=9022203]Jake Sisko[/url] a while back. He'd pull the starter after giving up a hit or whatever then Jake would come in for an inning or two and pile up victories. Of course, Admin has since changed the starter minimums.
[Edited on 6-13-2015 by ccox]
June 12, 2015 at 09:20PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
Originally posted by tworoosters
Does ABE just give it to whoever the second pitcher to enter the game is since the starter didn't go five ?
I think so, yes.
I think that's how imabundy2 got 60 wins in a season with [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?player=nobody&mode=stats&id=9022203]Jake Sisko[/url] a while back. He'd pull the starter after giving up a hit or whatever then Jake would come in for an inning or two and pile up victories. Of course, Admin has since changed the starter minimums.
[Edited on 6-13-2015 by ccox]
Hamilton2
June 13, 2015 at 01:11AM View BBCode
Yeah, apparently there are some sim owners who still think that wins are a real statistic with value and they got all butthurt that someone was ruining the record books. Boohoo.
ccox
Pretty sure this has been covered ad nauseam already.
June 13, 2015 at 01:24AM View BBCode
Yeah, well, 60 wins was a joke. If a hitter knocked 150 home runs in a season, it wouldn't be a very realistic baseball sim, would it?Pretty sure this has been covered ad nauseam already.
Hamilton2
June 13, 2015 at 01:33AM View BBCode
The rate stats on the pitcher are/were still within the realm of possible. They are just "wins" it is literally the second most meaningless individual stat that there is (saves is first, if you were wondering).
dirtdevil
June 13, 2015 at 01:54AM View BBCode
I like wins, personally. they're like, better than losses, you know? :saint:
Hamilton2
June 13, 2015 at 02:26AM View BBCode
Better is true. But they are not more statistically significant. Losses are more meaningful than wins from that perspective.
dirtdevil
June 13, 2015 at 03:22AM View BBCode
I don't really care if they're statistically significant or not. i'll take as many of them as I can get.
tworoosters
June 13, 2015 at 04:36PM View BBCode
Wins are certainly the goal but as a statistical measuring stick for individual value they truly suck .
Michael1
June 14, 2015 at 04:14PM View BBCode
No I think ERA is the most meaningless stat ever devised. All Runs allowed should be tallied and divided by nine not just ones that scored because of errors. Maybe at the MLB level the error isn't as significant but at lower levels HS, college ERA tells you nothing.
tworoosters
June 14, 2015 at 04:40PM View BBCode
How does indicating the number of runs a pitcher concedes that shouldn't have scored make for a better measurement of effectiveness ?Pages: 1