tysonlowery
Eliminate 5th Starter?
February 02, 2002 at 06:02AM View BBCode
I'm toying with the idea of removing the 5th starter, and having teams have a 6th reliever. So you would have 4 starters, and a 5th guy who would make occasional starts and act as the long man out of the bullpen.
This is the solution I've come up with to the problem of too many appearances by some relievers. Any thoughts on this out there? If people agree, I'll start looking into this change and see how quickly it can be done.
Bob
February 02, 2002 at 12:56PM View BBCode
I kinda like having 5 starters -- it rewards depth. But I haven't any good ideas for addressing the problem of relief appearances. I think the thing that causes it is that each team only uses ten pitchers all year unless there is an injury. In real life, it seems that each team uses 18 or 19 pitchers per year. Maybe combining fatigue, more frequent low duration injuries and using a letter score for ratings will result in people juggling their staff more frequently.
Spaceman
February 02, 2002 at 01:20PM View BBCode
This is a tough decision. My reliever Dennis Williams already has 20 winsand he hasn't started a game all season.
I think what Bob said should be tried out first (letter ratings) and then see what the results are.
tysonlowery
February 02, 2002 at 05:46PM View BBCode
New idea that will fix two problems, I think.
I'm going to add a field to the database for Consecutive Games played. I'll make it so relief pitchers cannot pitch in 3 consecutive games. If this doesn't work, I'll try getting the 5th starter into the bullpen on occasion.
Another problem this will solve is the problem where guys are playing 162 games a year. Someone suggested that I base this on health. If a guy is healthy, he can play in more games than a guy who is not healthy. This is how it will work. Details to follow, when I actually do this.
tysonlowery
February 02, 2002 at 09:19PM View BBCode
I'm getting closer on this. I'll try to finish it up on Monday, I think. Spent most of today playing around with this.
Here's the logic, as it stands. Depending on the health of your player, the sim will dermine how often the player needs to rest. For position players, if your guy has a really, really low health (1 for example), he will need to take a game off once every 4-5 games. A player with perfect health can play the entire season without a game off. The average player needs to take a game off once every 10-15 games.
Two problems I've thought about. 1st, I don't display health on a lot of pages. But you can see it on the Player info page. 2nd, it would be nice to know when your player was "about to need a game off", so that you could make the substitution instead of having Abe do it for you. This will be another enhancement.
Bob
February 03, 2002 at 01:29PM View BBCode
I love the idea of forced rest. It sounds like a great addition and we'll be sure to watch for it during beta testing.
rickoshea
February 04, 2002 at 12:37AM View BBCode
Maybe make it optional- the ability to either name a pitcher as starter #5 or as a middle reliever... Leave it in the hands of the manager...
One possible addition to this topic- maybe start scheduling double-headers. Remember, in the 50s they were still playing a bunch of these each year- before the advent of charter flights, etc. This would give starters more time off throughout the year, and stretch the rotation a bit....
tysonlowery
February 05, 2002 at 12:15AM View BBCode
Okay, I've put in some forced rest logic. It will work for pitchers and hitters starting tomorrow. So it will take a few days to take effect, because before I wasn't tracking how many consecutive games guys were playing.
As an enhancement, I will be adding a graph or something next to each guys name so you can see if he needs rest.
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