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CCondardo
--Corey
Measurables for LB
February 07, 2012 at 07:10PM View BBCode
Is there currently a way to measure how effective a LB is? Right now I can't seem to know much of anything about them, how good they are at stopping the pass or run.--Corey
CCondardo
--Corey
February 07, 2012 at 07:11PM View BBCode
By measurables I mean actual stats, without stats I can't figure out what a skill represents.--Corey
dirtdevil
February 07, 2012 at 07:25PM View BBCode
INT and FF is about all, which are of limited use for LBs. abe doesn't keep track of tackles yet.
CCondardo
For example:
12:45. 0 0 MON 1/10 MON 41
1st and 10 for the Polar Bears, they huddle and line up in a Pro Set; the Direwolves line up in a 4-2-5 Nickel.
Gabe Kerr takes the snap and drops back into the pocket.
Kerr is under heavy pressure.
Kerr passes to Frank Campbell at the MON 48.
The ball is caught at the MON 48 by Frank Campbell.
Coverage blown by Skip Bayless
Campbell breaks a tackle by Bub Kanicki.
Pass by Gabe Kerr is completed to Frank Campbell for a 17 yard gain.
First down for the Montreal Polar Bears!
This would improve the current system because you learn A. Bayless blew coverage and B. Kanicki has bad tackling. The more we can learn about a play the better can we become at the game. I'm not in favor of giving the info away, such as % coverage blown in zone, but I think putting it into the text of a game and allowing coaches to track it itself makes it appropriate.
--Corey
February 07, 2012 at 08:51PM View BBCode
Tackles are going to be helpful, but more so I think it'd be good to know only within the play description who blew a coverage, or which zone a pass was completed in.For example:
12:45. 0 0 MON 1/10 MON 41
1st and 10 for the Polar Bears, they huddle and line up in a Pro Set; the Direwolves line up in a 4-2-5 Nickel.
Gabe Kerr takes the snap and drops back into the pocket.
Kerr is under heavy pressure.
Kerr passes to Frank Campbell at the MON 48.
The ball is caught at the MON 48 by Frank Campbell.
Coverage blown by Skip Bayless
Campbell breaks a tackle by Bub Kanicki.
Pass by Gabe Kerr is completed to Frank Campbell for a 17 yard gain.
First down for the Montreal Polar Bears!
This would improve the current system because you learn A. Bayless blew coverage and B. Kanicki has bad tackling. The more we can learn about a play the better can we become at the game. I'm not in favor of giving the info away, such as % coverage blown in zone, but I think putting it into the text of a game and allowing coaches to track it itself makes it appropriate.
--Corey
emidas
I agree, without this, we really can't coach to the best of our abilities - because we can't see the action.
February 07, 2012 at 10:02PM View BBCode
Originally posted by CCondardo
Tackles are going to be helpful, but more so I think it'd be good to know only within the play description who blew a coverage, or which zone a pass was completed in.
For example:
12:45. 0 0 MON 1/10 MON 41
1st and 10 for the Polar Bears, they huddle and line up in a Pro Set; the Direwolves line up in a 4-2-5 Nickel.
Gabe Kerr takes the snap and drops back into the pocket.
Kerr is under heavy pressure.
Kerr passes to Frank Campbell at the MON 48.
The ball is caught at the MON 48 by Frank Campbell.
Coverage blown by Skip Bayless
Campbell breaks a tackle by Bub Kanicki.
Pass by Gabe Kerr is completed to Frank Campbell for a 17 yard gain.
First down for the Montreal Polar Bears!
This would improve the current system because you learn A. Bayless blew coverage and B. Kanicki has bad tackling. The more we can learn about a play the better can we become at the game. I'm not in favor of giving the info away, such as % coverage blown in zone, but I think putting it into the text of a game and allowing coaches to track it itself makes it appropriate.
--Corey
I agree, without this, we really can't coach to the best of our abilities - because we can't see the action.
PatriotFan80blitz
February 09, 2012 at 11:58PM View BBCode
I would love to see movement by the numbered players on the field. Even if you do chose to snap them back after each play. I can see who is giving too much room defensively and have a better understanding of how the pressure for the quarterback, or the biggest run stopper for the defense is. This would put the game in a whole to spot on the sim map.
Admin
Unfortunately, actually moving the players would require storing and sending too much data to DynastyVision. I may be able to put arrows on the field showing the chalkboard version of the play but it wouldn't account for simulated deviations.
There may be a solution at some point... mulling over the issue in my head I may be able to store all of the play data in external, includable files that could be cached by the browser, and then I would only have to store deviations in the play-by-play.... hmm. That could be a possible way to do a fully-animated play-by-play. Of course, it would take as long to watch as a real football game that way.
--Chris
February 11, 2012 at 05:13AM View BBCode
Originally posted by PatriotFan80blitz
I would love to see movement by the numbered players on the field. Even if you do chose to snap them back after each play. I can see who is giving too much room defensively and have a better understanding of how the pressure for the quarterback, or the biggest run stopper for the defense is. This would put the game in a whole to spot on the sim map.
Unfortunately, actually moving the players would require storing and sending too much data to DynastyVision. I may be able to put arrows on the field showing the chalkboard version of the play but it wouldn't account for simulated deviations.
There may be a solution at some point... mulling over the issue in my head I may be able to store all of the play data in external, includable files that could be cached by the browser, and then I would only have to store deviations in the play-by-play.... hmm. That could be a possible way to do a fully-animated play-by-play. Of course, it would take as long to watch as a real football game that way.
--Chris
CCondardo
Chris, instead of getting complicated I think tackles and blown coverage would solve the issue of understanding who is at fault on a pass play, specifically LB. Right now I have no idea who is blowing a coverage on a pass.
--Corey
February 12, 2012 at 12:13AM View BBCode
Originally posted by Admin
Originally posted by PatriotFan80blitz
I would love to see movement by the numbered players on the field. Even if you do chose to snap them back after each play. I can see who is giving too much room defensively and have a better understanding of how the pressure for the quarterback, or the biggest run stopper for the defense is. This would put the game in a whole to spot on the sim map.
Unfortunately, actually moving the players would require storing and sending too much data to DynastyVision. I may be able to put arrows on the field showing the chalkboard version of the play but it wouldn't account for simulated deviations.
There may be a solution at some point... mulling over the issue in my head I may be able to store all of the play data in external, includable files that could be cached by the browser, and then I would only have to store deviations in the play-by-play.... hmm. That could be a possible way to do a fully-animated play-by-play. Of course, it would take as long to watch as a real football game that way.
--Chris
Chris, instead of getting complicated I think tackles and blown coverage would solve the issue of understanding who is at fault on a pass play, specifically LB. Right now I have no idea who is blowing a coverage on a pass.
--Corey
ArchieG
February 12, 2012 at 12:21AM View BBCode
Yup, I think the game and simulation is pretty great as it is. SimD baseball has done just fine without players moving around and catching the ball and all that jazz. All we really need is more information on what is happening: tackles, missed tackles, etc etc. We'll get the 'picture' in our head.Pages: 1