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Goldambre
Now I will admit that I have lost a step or three as the years have passed by, but Tom Brady (34) is still slinging the ball. Hasselbeck (34) was never as good as Brady, but he is still going strong. Then there is that Green Bay/Minnesota guy who played into his 40's.
Yes, age should play a factor, but these massive drops don't really happen.
Age Based Declines
November 19, 2011 at 04:57AM View BBCode
Are we sure these are realistic? [url=http://footballbeta.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=167628] Vyto Johnson[/url] had 5 declines at age 32. That climbed to 10 at age 33. Now that he is 34, Vyto has suffered 45 points of decline. The other 34/35 year old QB's suffered a similar rapid decline--two were around 100 points of decline in one year.Now I will admit that I have lost a step or three as the years have passed by, but Tom Brady (34) is still slinging the ball. Hasselbeck (34) was never as good as Brady, but he is still going strong. Then there is that Green Bay/Minnesota guy who played into his 40's.
Yes, age should play a factor, but these massive drops don't really happen.
redcped
http://footballbeta.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=167527&displaytab=imps
Is that some sort of record?
November 19, 2011 at 06:22AM View BBCode
How about this guy with 129 declines this OS:http://footballbeta.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=167527&displaytab=imps
Is that some sort of record?
Admin
You'll notice Vyto Johnson did not decline in Throwing Accuracy. That is not luck, that is by design. Speed and agility are the first things to go, but "learned skills" such as execution and throwing/kicking accuracy decline later and slower.
Now, 45 points of decline sounds like a lot but the only place he took a serious hit was Health at 9 declines. No other skill took a more than 4-decline drop.
Why do I say "4-decline drop" rather than "4-point drop"? Because, like improvements, declines are not necessarily a full point. Vyto's overall rating is 80, still red-letter, as it should be.
Also, remember that improvements go where you need them, but declines are across the board. redcped's example, QB Cap Jones, took his biggest decline (9 declines) in Pass Cover. I doubt he cares that his QB's Pass Cover rating has declined.
Now, Health is falling off rapidly; it was designed to, but it looks like it's dropping harder and faster than intended so there may be double-dipping going on. This is important, as players who reach health of 1 or lower will now retire due to health reasons, no mater how otherwise good they are.
--Chris
November 19, 2011 at 03:09PM View BBCode
Declines were heavily increased in the most recent update.You'll notice Vyto Johnson did not decline in Throwing Accuracy. That is not luck, that is by design. Speed and agility are the first things to go, but "learned skills" such as execution and throwing/kicking accuracy decline later and slower.
Now, 45 points of decline sounds like a lot but the only place he took a serious hit was Health at 9 declines. No other skill took a more than 4-decline drop.
Why do I say "4-decline drop" rather than "4-point drop"? Because, like improvements, declines are not necessarily a full point. Vyto's overall rating is 80, still red-letter, as it should be.
Also, remember that improvements go where you need them, but declines are across the board. redcped's example, QB Cap Jones, took his biggest decline (9 declines) in Pass Cover. I doubt he cares that his QB's Pass Cover rating has declined.
Now, Health is falling off rapidly; it was designed to, but it looks like it's dropping harder and faster than intended so there may be double-dipping going on. This is important, as players who reach health of 1 or lower will now retire due to health reasons, no mater how otherwise good they are.
--Chris
Admin
--Chris
November 19, 2011 at 03:10PM View BBCode
To answer the question "Are we sure they are realistic"? No, we aren't sure. But the old declines were way too slow. Football players don't have the slow decline of baseball players, in most positions they fall off rather quickly. It's something we will need to watch.--Chris
tworoosters
November 19, 2011 at 09:41PM View BBCode
[url=http://footballbeta.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=167800&displaytab=imps]Gruneisen[/url], coming off possibly his best season with 677 yards rushing and 13 TDs, has probably declined himself onto the waiver wire .
Admin
--Chris
November 19, 2011 at 11:34PM View BBCode
He only took one more Speed decline than he did last year. But yes, RB's don't last long after age 30.--Chris
tworoosters
There aren't many 32 year old RBs in the NFL so I don't think we should see many in the SIM either.
November 20, 2011 at 12:05AM View BBCode
Yeah, not complaining just observing. He's had a very solid career for the 350th player taken in the initial draft, the 47 rushing TDs are the 3rd highest in league history.There aren't many 32 year old RBs in the NFL so I don't think we should see many in the SIM either.
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