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dirtdevil
10:11. 0 0 CHI 4/12 DAL 29 4th and 12 for the Cannons, they line up in a Field Goal/PAT; the Roughriders line up in a Field Goal/PAT Block.
Terry Smith prepares to attempt a field goal for Chicago, Kevin Marelli holding.
Kick is into a crosswind to right; Marelli's hold is good.
The 45-yard field goal attempt by Terry Smith is blocked by Riki Nelson.
Gregg Brown recovers the ball for the Cannons at the DAL 31.
Gregg Brown returns the loose ball to the DAL 14.
First down for the Chicago Cannons!
09:55 0 0 CHI 1/10 DAL 14 1st and 10 for the Cannons, they line up in a I Formation; the Roughriders line up in a 4-3.
http://football.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=3656
[Edited on 3-2-2011 by dirtdevil]
field goal block
March 02, 2011 at 01:20PM View BBCode
in the 1stQ of one of my games today, my team managed to block a field goal. as you can imagine, i was reasonably happy. you can imagine my surprise then, when the opposng team somehow recover their own blocked kick and return it 17 yards to the 14, leading to a touchdown. unless my team went and signed leon kett when i wasn't looking, i believe this is a bug.10:11. 0 0 CHI 4/12 DAL 29 4th and 12 for the Cannons, they line up in a Field Goal/PAT; the Roughriders line up in a Field Goal/PAT Block.
Terry Smith prepares to attempt a field goal for Chicago, Kevin Marelli holding.
Kick is into a crosswind to right; Marelli's hold is good.
The 45-yard field goal attempt by Terry Smith is blocked by Riki Nelson.
Gregg Brown recovers the ball for the Cannons at the DAL 31.
Gregg Brown returns the loose ball to the DAL 14.
First down for the Chicago Cannons!
09:55 0 0 CHI 1/10 DAL 14 1st and 10 for the Cannons, they line up in a I Formation; the Roughriders line up in a 4-3.
http://football.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=3656
[Edited on 3-2-2011 by dirtdevil]
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So if that is what you are referring to, I need to add a line in the play-by-play to specify where the block occurred. If I am mis-interpreting the rule, please let me know, it wouldn't be the first time. :)
--Chris
March 02, 2011 at 04:12PM View BBCode
Right now the code treats all blocked kicks as happening behind the neutral zone, in which case either team can advance the ball (Rule 9, Article 4, "When a kick is from behind the line, any touching behind the line by an offensive player is legal and any player may recover and advance"). If the block occurs beyond the neutral zone, the defense has to muff the recovery for the offense to advance (I assume this is what you are referring to). The way the code is written, a block beyond the neutral zone could only happen on long kicks, as the kicker intentionally increases his kicking angle closer to the goal to put the ball well above the reach of a defender when it crosses the LOS. (When I first wrote the code, the kicker always went for a 45 degree angle on field goals and blocks were far more common.)So if that is what you are referring to, I need to add a line in the play-by-play to specify where the block occurred. If I am mis-interpreting the rule, please let me know, it wouldn't be the first time. :)
--Chris
Hamilton2
March 02, 2011 at 04:45PM View BBCode
You aren't misinterpretting the rule, but it is highly improbable that a player would be able to recover a blocked FG and then return it 17 yards. Were the defensive players just standing there while this occured?
Classics
March 02, 2011 at 05:08PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2You apparently missed the Steelers / Ravens playoff game.
You aren't misinterpretting the rule, but it is highly improbable that a player would be able to recover a blocked FG and then return it 17 yards. Were the defensive players just standing there while this occured?
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--Chris
March 02, 2011 at 06:36PM View BBCode
Well, we are looking at a sample size of one in a sport where anything can happen, but I will double-check the code. I recall it being difficult to get data to analyze on blocked field goals and blocked extra points, so at some pont I had to take some creative liberties. :)--Chris
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--Chris
March 02, 2011 at 06:41PM View BBCode
Looking at the code, a 17 yard return means that he fell into the "unusual return" slot, as the maximum FG block return for a player with perfect skills and perfect random numbers is 16 yards. So you won't see returns like that on a regular basis.--Chris
dirtdevil
March 03, 2011 at 05:11PM View BBCode
the rule interpretation there is correct, but really, how often does that happen? greg brown is his backup TE, which places him between the RT and RB on the field goal team. regardless of rule, i would suggest that the occurences of the kicking team picking up their own blocked kick behind the line of scrimmage and advancing it for positive yardage are rare. i would also suggest that in those rare cases, it makes sense that the holder, kicker or maybe outside wing blocker are the most likely candidates. to have the backup TE come off his block, turn around, pick up the ball and then rumble 17 yards downfield? the odds against that must be astronomical.Pages: 1