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celamantia
Here's a mockup of it in Excel:
Player Card Layout
January 24, 2009 at 10:42AM View BBCode
I am still tinkering with the top portion of the player card. I've come up with a layout that I think is a little easier to read, but I wanted to get some opinions before I tore apart the code.Here's a mockup of it in Excel:
celamantia has attached this image:
ScooterPie
The season at a glance is a nice idea; often, that's the main information I'm looking for, and it doesn't make sense to have to scroll all the way down. Good thought.
I guess one thing I'll mention is the layout of the offensive abilities. I've grown accustomed to the current arrangement. How would this work:
CvR -- CvL
PvR -- PvL
Spd -- Bunt
I guess what I'm thinking is, you could just look down the left column and see what are the three most important ratings for most hitters.
Personally, I'd rather see OBP featured than SLG, but it's a close one. Maybe OPS. Or both OBP and SLG, and leave off SB. I don't know. I do like featuring BA, HR, and RBI -- the traditional stats. Makes it feel more like a card.
Question: what's the Status line for? Active/injured? Something like that?
Overall, redoing the cards is a good instinct. Whatever you do will take some geting used to. I hope these few scattered thoughts are useful to you.
scooter
January 24, 2009 at 12:27PM View BBCode
Boy, that's a big change. Lots to take in, so I'm not sure how well I can comment just yet.The season at a glance is a nice idea; often, that's the main information I'm looking for, and it doesn't make sense to have to scroll all the way down. Good thought.
I guess one thing I'll mention is the layout of the offensive abilities. I've grown accustomed to the current arrangement. How would this work:
CvR -- CvL
PvR -- PvL
Spd -- Bunt
I guess what I'm thinking is, you could just look down the left column and see what are the three most important ratings for most hitters.
Personally, I'd rather see OBP featured than SLG, but it's a close one. Maybe OPS. Or both OBP and SLG, and leave off SB. I don't know. I do like featuring BA, HR, and RBI -- the traditional stats. Makes it feel more like a card.
Question: what's the Status line for? Active/injured? Something like that?
Overall, redoing the cards is a good instinct. Whatever you do will take some geting used to. I hope these few scattered thoughts are useful to you.
scooter
dunn_acolyte
[Edited on 1-24-2009 by dunn_acolyte]
January 24, 2009 at 01:19PM View BBCode
Looks good to start but I would prefer to see more stats if they could be included without problem. I love the positions section easy to tell where eligible without hitting more links.[Edited on 1-24-2009 by dunn_acolyte]
cy511
Question - Can the background headline color be adjusted to your team colors?
Player Card Layout
January 24, 2009 at 01:53PM View BBCode
Easier to read, (more info at one spot), no scrolling required.Question - Can the background headline color be adjusted to your team colors?
redcped
If I had to choose, I would replace SLG with OPS at the top. I think leaving SB is a nice idea.
--If a player has multiple positions, will those all appear on the top right?
--Will the injured designation across the card still come up?
--Do you need to add something to allow name changes?
January 24, 2009 at 03:58PM View BBCode
I agree with scooter's suggestions.If I had to choose, I would replace SLG with OPS at the top. I think leaving SB is a nice idea.
--If a player has multiple positions, will those all appear on the top right?
--Will the injured designation across the card still come up?
--Do you need to add something to allow name changes?
kittens
January 24, 2009 at 04:03PM View BBCode
Howdy, I love it. I agree OPS is more useful than SLG but I seem to use OBP a lot. Actually I would like all 3 SLG, OBP, OPS.... Bryce
celamantia
Status would show as:
Active
Rest
Minors
Desig. for Assignment
DL
Retired
Deceased
I'd prefer "Inactive" to "Rest" but I'm afraid that might be confusing.
January 24, 2009 at 04:25PM View BBCode
Originally posted by ScooterPie
Question: what's the Status line for? Active/injured? Something like that?
Status would show as:
Active
Rest
Minors
Desig. for Assignment
DL
Retired
Deceased
I'd prefer "Inactive" to "Rest" but I'm afraid that might be confusing.
DwightKSchrute
January 24, 2009 at 04:41PM View BBCode
I would make sure the player ratings are color coded like they always have been. Other than that it's just a change that would take some getting used to.
celamantia
January 24, 2009 at 04:45PM View BBCode
They will be, I just didn't feel like doing it for the mockup... LOL
DwightKSchrute
January 24, 2009 at 04:48PM View BBCode
I wondered if that were the case. I was just making sure.
celamantia
Here's the mockup with some changes:
January 24, 2009 at 05:30PM View BBCode
Oh, and when the player retires, or if it's the offseason/preseason and no games have been played, "Season at a Glance" changes to "Career at a Glance".Here's the mockup with some changes:
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djdausaster
What's the "watch list"?
January 24, 2009 at 06:15PM View BBCode
This is really nice. It wouldn't take me long to adjust, and it makes a lot more sense to new owners.What's the "watch list"?
celamantia
January 24, 2009 at 06:45PM View BBCode
It's something I'm working on, essentially a "favorites list" for players you want to keep an eye on. Someone asked for it ages ago and it's been on my "To Do" list.
DwightKSchrute
January 25, 2009 at 02:40AM View BBCode
You know to be honest about it I feel like I like how the current cards match the look and feel of the site. I don't know that I would call these new cards an improvement. They're just different.
DwightKSchrute
January 25, 2009 at 02:42AM View BBCode
There's also a problem with the white writing at the top of the cards. I'm sure you're fixing it. I think some kind of border would be helpful.
celamantia
I could make the old style cards available as an option... I just find it really hard to locate information on the old card.
January 25, 2009 at 02:45AM View BBCode
Yes, I'm slowly converting the cards over.I could make the old style cards available as an option... I just find it really hard to locate information on the old card.
jetpac
January 25, 2009 at 02:46AM View BBCode
I would definitely call it an improvement. Grouping the different ratings under logical headers makes it easier to immediately see what you're looking for, season at a glance is a great idea, and I especially like the OS age being shown. It may not be perfect stylistically as far as colors and things like that, but once it's put on the card I think it will blend in better than what it looks like here. I also like the idea of matching the header colors to the team colors.
jetpac
January 25, 2009 at 02:50AM View BBCode
That was based on the posted Excel layout, btw. The layout currently on the beta page would have definitely need some tweaking if it was the proposed final product.
DwightKSchrute
January 25, 2009 at 02:54AM View BBCode
Yeah, I suppose I'm just used to the old ones so I don't have any problems with them. What would be really sweet would be if there was a tab to show any places the player ranks in the top 20 in league history.
celamantia
No, but all of the position ratings are visible in the bottom left of the card.
Yes.
Name changes work the same way they always have. If you are within your window, the name field will be editable and there will be a "Change" button next to it. Also, when within your window, a link will apper below the portrait allowing you to change that.
January 25, 2009 at 08:21AM View BBCode
Originally posted by redcped
--If a player has multiple positions, will those all appear on the top right?
No, but all of the position ratings are visible in the bottom left of the card.
--Will the injured designation across the card still come up?
Yes.
--Do you need to add something to allow name changes?
Name changes work the same way they always have. If you are within your window, the name field will be editable and there will be a "Change" button next to it. Also, when within your window, a link will apper below the portrait allowing you to change that.
celamantia
As you can see, stats aren't working yet. That's going to take a much bigger reworking of the code than I thought so it may be a couple of days.
January 25, 2009 at 08:26AM View BBCode
Here's a screenshot showing the name when it is editable. I did manage to get the card to change colors to match the team.As you can see, stats aren't working yet. That's going to take a much bigger reworking of the code than I thought so it may be a couple of days.
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ScooterPie
Also, this third mockup feels, I think, more like Sim Dynasty (I had a similar reaction to Dwight's but couldn't articulate it). Dunno if it's just the new header, or if the colors have something to do with it. But this last example looks really swell, say I.
scooter
January 25, 2009 at 12:54PM View BBCode
I like that you added number of CPs assigned, and I am madly in love with the fact you added OS age. That's just inspired.Also, this third mockup feels, I think, more like Sim Dynasty (I had a similar reaction to Dwight's but couldn't articulate it). Dunno if it's just the new header, or if the colors have something to do with it. But this last example looks really swell, say I.
scooter
celamantia
January 25, 2009 at 08:10PM View BBCode
I had thought about it but if they have it I'm not quite sure what to do with it. I'd have to deal with uniform number conflicts during trades, etc. But it's a good thought; I'll see what Tyson thinks.