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pecker247

Hall of Fame Vote

January 22, 2014 at 12:47PM View BBCode

It's time to vote. If you need additional information I did post things on the nomination thread of who their Hall of Fame Equal would be.

Bruce Pearson
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8486070

9 All Star Teams
6 World Series Rings
13 Playoff Apps
Rookie of the year award
1 MVP Award
5 Gold Gloves(Most by any productive Shortstop)
#15 All Time in Home Runs 420 For Retired Players #2 All Time for Shortstops
#14 All Time in RBI's 1554 For Retired Players #2 All Time For Shortstops.
6 Time 20/20 Club
1 Time 30/30 Club


Glen Boone
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=5123210

8 All Star Teams
2 World Series Rings
10 Playoff Apps
#8 All Time in Home Runs 482 For Retired Players
#7 All Time In RBI's 1685 For Retired Players
#19 All Time Hits 2772 For Retired Players
One of very few players in the Top 20 for HR, RBI's and Hits

Lil' Louis Vega
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=4927995

Not sure how I missed this guy before.

7 All Star Teams
2 World Series Rings
11 Playoff Apps
2 Cy Young Awards
#13 All Time In Wins 248 For Retired Players
#24 All Time in Complete Games 97 For Retired Players
#17 All Time in Shut Outs 27 For Retired Players
#27 All Time in Strikeouts 2535 For Retired Players

Jack Christiansen
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7387716

15 All star appearances, 9 as starter
3 MVP
6 Gold Gloves
#4 All time in HR
#6 All time in H
#3 All time in RBI
#7 All time in R

Pete Gerberman
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6640670


#1 All time games played
#4 All time H
#5 All time BB
#11 All time R

7 All star apps (2 as starter)
2 Gold Gloves

[Edited on 1-23-2014 by pecker247]
ay42

January 22, 2014 at 04:33PM View BBCode

Yes to Boone, Christiansen, Gerberman.
Cheezweezel

January 22, 2014 at 07:32PM View BBCode

Yes to Christiansen and Gerberman.
Barndog56

January 22, 2014 at 09:13PM View BBCode

Yes to Christianson
pecker247

January 22, 2014 at 11:53PM View BBCode

For the first time in a long time I am going to have to vote yes on everyone. Gerberman is the weakest of the group, but there's something to be said about someone that plays that long. He never would of gotten it had he played the normal amount of years, but since he didn't he deserves it.

YES TO ALL!

I am not going to make this into a big deal, but I don't know how one of the most productive Short stops in this leagues history can't get a yes vote. His career has been one of the best this league has ever seen for a Shortstop and he had the post season resume, the gold gloves and the rings to back it all up. Honestly Bruce should of been a unanimous yes. I am not being biased here. He would of been a yes on any team with that career.


Here are some other short stops in the Hall of Fame and compare these guys to Bruce

http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=2409749
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=4370741
[Edited on 1-23-2014 by pecker247]

[Edited on 1-23-2014 by pecker247]
XSwabbie

January 23, 2014 at 02:05AM View BBCode

YES TO ALL
Mikefornu

January 23, 2014 at 02:54AM View BBCode

Christiansen - yes
cy511

Zephyrs

January 23, 2014 at 04:36PM View BBCode

Yes to Christiansen and Gerberman.
mrtwolff

January 25, 2014 at 10:14AM View BBCode

Yes to all.
canauscot

January 26, 2014 at 04:21AM View BBCode

Yes to all

Wash
shawnwoods15

January 26, 2014 at 02:20PM View BBCode

Pearson
Vega
Christiansen

I love Gerberman, but playing a long time doesn't equal a hall of famer.
Cheezweezel

January 26, 2014 at 11:42PM View BBCode

Shawnwoods, I hear what you're saying, but I think that's up for debate in SimD. In real life, I would agree 100%, but for a sim, playing in 3000 games is no less impressive than hitting 500 homers. Possibly more impressive, considering that Gerberman is the only one in this league to have done it.
pecker247

January 27, 2014 at 04:46AM View BBCode

Originally posted by Cheezweezel
Shawnwoods, I hear what you're saying, but I think that's up for debate in SimD. In real life, I would agree 100%, but for a sim, playing in 3000 games is no less impressive than hitting 500 homers. Possibly more impressive, considering that Gerberman is the only one in this league to have done it.



I guess there is where it gets confusing. Gerbeman had a long career, but really wasn't an all star nor did he do anything special. He was an Iron Man and that's it. No special awards, no post season honors. Nothing. I voted for him because by him playing so long it was a special thing and I gave him my vote. Cheezweezel what I don't understand is why you didn't vote for Bruce. He can be argued as the best Short stop this league has ever seen. He had the rings, the gold gloves, the post season history and his career was more than worthy. If Bruce would of played just one or two more years and "padded" his stats it wouldn't of been a question. I think we get into a habit of looking at hitters and if we don't see 500 Home runs then it's a no. We need to look at the full body of work. The awards. Everything. I think if some people really looked at the body of work then you may change your mind about some players especially Bruce.
Cheezweezel

January 27, 2014 at 04:51AM View BBCode

I guess it's just a mystery Pecker, but I don't feel like going into it right now. However, I would suggest that we have an All-Star discussion thread in the future. People will make their votes and that's that, but it could be interesting to have a little more involvement in the nomination process.
pecker247

January 27, 2014 at 04:59AM View BBCode

In the nomination process I encourage owners to promote their players with stats and other accomplishments and that's what we have done. I feel that some owners vote no on other people's players out of spite or a general distaste for another owner which is very wrong and in the wrong spirit of the game. If that was the case then no one would get in the Hall because owners would just keep voting down other owners players because they could. Honestly the the players that should of gotten in this time was Christiansen, Gerbeman, and Pearson. Those 3 shouldn't of been a debate. I could see where the others could of been on the fence, but for sure those 3 shouldn't of had any issues. Everyone has their opinion and that's why we vote. To say that I think some people's evaluations are wrong are an understatement, but it is what it is. After all it's just a simulated baseball game. I know that some people vote out of spite. Why I don't know because unless there is some secret animosity between players no one should be dissatisfied in this league. I have been in a couple of other leagues and believe it or not we have it very good in this league when it comes to owners being pretty respectful, but you always have those bad apples from time to time.
Cheezweezel

January 27, 2014 at 05:07AM View BBCode

I for one just vote on who I think should be in the Hall. I have one vote, you have one vote, and everyone else has one vote. Any further discussion should go on another thread.

I think the next step is induction...

[Edited on 1-27-2014 by Cheezweezel]

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