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Fixing out of position players

September 08, 2011 at 01:09AM View BBCode

I'm working on the issue of out of position players. Here's a count of active players in Gamma who have "inappropriate" Best Roles:

30 CB have a Best Role of FS
5 S have a Best Role of CB
4 LB have a Best Role of DE
3 G have a Best Role of C
3 G have a Best Role of RT
2 C have a Best Role of RT
2 LB have a Best Role of FS
2 RB have a Best Role of RT
2 RB have a Best Role of TE
1 G have a Best Role of LT
1 TE have a Best Role of FB
1 TE have a Best Role of WR

So this isn't terrible. Only 6 LB have Best Roles that aren't LB positions. The problem though is that they still have better ratings at other positions than players naturally in those positions.

So no solution yet, just collecting data.

--Chris

[Edited on 9-8-2011 by Admin]
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 01:15AM View BBCode

I made some adjustments at LB, SS, FS, and CB to try and counter this, and generated a new league. The new league's out of position players are:

11 CB have a Best Role of FS
5 G have a Best Role of RT
5 LB have a Best Role of DE
4 G have a Best Role of C
3 RB have a Best Role of TE
3 S have a Best Role of OLB
2 DE have a Best Role of SS
2 LB have a Best Role of FS
2 TE have a Best Role of FB
1 C have a Best Role of G
1 C have a Best Role of RT
1 DE have a Best Role of ILB
1 LB have a Best Role of SS
1 RB have a Best Role of C
1 RB have a Best Role of RT
1 RB have a Best Role of WR
1 S have a Best Role of CB
1 S have a Best Role of ILB
1 TE have a Best Role of RT
1 TE have a Best Role of WR

So that's tightened things up a bit.
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 01:20AM View BBCode

Still having issues with the ILB/OLB and SS/FS split:

90 LB have a Best Role of ILB
30 LB have a Best Role of OLB

29 RB have a Best Role of FB
51 RB have a Best Role of HB

65 S have a Best Role of FS
19 S have a Best Role of SS

35 T have a Best Role of LT
36 T have a Best Role of RT
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 02:23AM View BBCode

OK, I've got these numbers looking a lot better. Still some overlap between CB and FS but that's not so outlandish. Analysing the rating distributions now.

--Chris
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 04:55AM View BBCode

After putting in the LB adjustments, the splits now look like this in Gamma for active players:

25 LB have a Best Role of ILB
96 LB have a Best Role of OLB

25 RB have a Best Role of FB
53 RB have a Best Role of HB

27 S have a Best Role of FS
23 S have a Best Role of SS

27 T have a Best Role of LT
30 T have a Best Role of RT


-Chris
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 04:58AM View BBCode

Originally posted by Admin
I'm working on the issue of out of position players. Here's a count of active players in Gamma who have "inappropriate" Best Roles:

30 CB have a Best Role of FS
5 S have a Best Role of CB
4 LB have a Best Role of DE
3 G have a Best Role of C
3 G have a Best Role of RT
2 C have a Best Role of RT
2 LB have a Best Role of FS
2 RB have a Best Role of RT
2 RB have a Best Role of TE
1 G have a Best Role of LT
1 TE have a Best Role of FB
1 TE have a Best Role of WR


Here is the list after the new adjustments:

4 LB have a Best Role of DE
3 G have a Best Role of C
3 G have a Best Role of RT
2 CB have a Best Role of FS
2 C have a Best Role of RT
2 RB have a Best Role of RT
2 RB have a Best Role of TE
1 G has a Best Role of LT
1 S has a Best Role of CB
1 TE has a Best Role of FB
1 TE has a Best Role of WR

Much better.

--Chris
Goldambre

September 08, 2011 at 03:06PM View BBCode

Is there any possibility that we can remove the special teams positions from the Best Role list? I doubt that anyone goes into the draft to pick-up GUN, KRB, H, LS or HT. Those positions are added bonus and an opportunity to get rookies some playing time.

Obviously, K, P and KR should stay as Best Roles.
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 03:19PM View BBCode

The whole point of Best Role in the first place was to point out potential special teams players when looking at, say, the waiver wire so you don't have to go poking through each player individually to find someone who could fill those roles well.

Certain special teams roles are excluded because they involve few skills and are thus easy to have a high grade in, such as HT and KOS. I'm on the edge of taking out H because pretty much any QB can fill that role well so you don't need t go looking for one.

--Chris
cowboymatt43

September 08, 2011 at 09:33PM View BBCode

Maybe to still accomplish your initial goal we could have Best Role and Second-Best Role. This would help owners easily find a WR who might not be quite as good as a guy currently on his roster at WR, but who is better at GUN, KR, KRB, etc.
Admin

September 08, 2011 at 09:37PM View BBCode

I have considered making the "Best Role" column "Best Role that isn't the same as your natural position".

--Chris
cowboymatt43

September 08, 2011 at 10:00PM View BBCode

That would be a solid solution as well.

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