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1) Retired players will get their position set, based on career games played.
2) Waiver wire guys who didn't get any ICs otherwise, will randomly get between 5 and 10 ICs.
Number 2 was easy to put in, we'll have to test and see if this works. The idea here is to help create more AAAA-type players in the long term for a variety of reasons. These players are presumably playing in the Independant League, Japan, or Mexico.
Tyson
OffSeason Changes
April 03, 2007 at 03:59PM View BBCode
Since we're about to get to the OffSeason, I thought I would add in 2 small changes.1) Retired players will get their position set, based on career games played.
2) Waiver wire guys who didn't get any ICs otherwise, will randomly get between 5 and 10 ICs.
Number 2 was easy to put in, we'll have to test and see if this works. The idea here is to help create more AAAA-type players in the long term for a variety of reasons. These players are presumably playing in the Independant League, Japan, or Mexico.
Tyson
Admin
I'm not sure if the ICs ran for WW players. My suspicion is that they did run, but weren't tracked in the improvement area of the database. I will look into this a bit too.
Tyson
April 03, 2007 at 04:34PM View BBCode
Ok, I ran into the same problems as last time but have a better idea of where the problem lies. I'm going to attempt to run only the Retirement part of the OffSeason to see if I got the fix right.I'm not sure if the ICs ran for WW players. My suspicion is that they did run, but weren't tracked in the improvement area of the database. I will look into this a bit too.
Tyson
ballplayer3
Mike
April 03, 2007 at 04:43PM View BBCode
I see that the older free agents are getting retired, and no players on teams were retired.Mike
Admin
Tyson
April 03, 2007 at 04:47PM View BBCode
Still had some problems on that run. I'm going to try it a 3rd time.Tyson
Admin
For the WW Improves, I see there wasn't any possible way for the improvement report info to get into the database. It's possible improvements did occur though. I've put a fix in for this for next season.
Tyson
April 03, 2007 at 05:02PM View BBCode
Ok, I suspect the code will work next time. Since empty batterstat and pitcherstat lines were already deleted for last season, it's not catching guys on the WW. We'll see if the older guys retire after next season.For the WW Improves, I see there wasn't any possible way for the improvement report info to get into the database. It's possible improvements did occur though. I've put a fix in for this for next season.
Tyson
rnznsmn
Will this apply to players that are currently on waivers or designated for assignment, or only players who actually finished, unclaimed, on the waiver wire during the offseason.
I'm asking because you have a potential abuse problem if it includes players designated for assignment. Your risk is that I just designated all my players at the end of the season, get the 5-10 CPs, and reclaim them in April.
April 03, 2007 at 06:02PM View BBCode
Tyson,Will this apply to players that are currently on waivers or designated for assignment, or only players who actually finished, unclaimed, on the waiver wire during the offseason.
I'm asking because you have a potential abuse problem if it includes players designated for assignment. Your risk is that I just designated all my players at the end of the season, get the 5-10 CPs, and reclaim them in April.
poppa2
[Edited on 4-3-2007 by poppa2]
April 03, 2007 at 06:04PM View BBCode
Did you see that there were 316 players that retired with the current OS date - 11/1/74? On the current waiver wire there is now no position players older than 30 and there are only 7 of them. However, it is different for the pitchers. There are 72 pitchers older than 30. It seems like the OS retiree changes really applied to the position players and maybe not at all to the pitchers.[Edited on 4-3-2007 by poppa2]
Admin
poppa - yes, see my above reply. It should get the pitchers next time.
Tyson
April 03, 2007 at 06:23PM View BBCode
rnz - I put some thought into that, and looked at practicalities and realism as well. It will apply to players who had no playing time in the last season and are currently free agents. If a guy is still going through waivers, he won't get any extra ICs. This was the easiest way to code it, and I also didn't want to double credit guys that got a season of minor league improves then were waived toward the end of the season. Also, prevents gaming of the system (I think). The last place team couldn't just waive his minor league squad each year and then get them back off of waivers. They would have to become free agents first.poppa - yes, see my above reply. It should get the pitchers next time.
Tyson
Admin
Tyson
[Edited on 4-3-2007 by Admin]
April 03, 2007 at 06:24PM View BBCode
If you have time, please check the batters who retired. Maybe too many retired. Nobody aged 30-34 with a mentoring score above F should have retired.Tyson
[Edited on 4-3-2007 by Admin]
barterer2002
April 03, 2007 at 06:45PM View BBCode
Well how about that. I logged into beta and discovered myself the WS champs. Maybe I should ignore my team for a full season more often.
barterer2002
April 03, 2007 at 06:47PM View BBCode
Although the banner does kind of throw the layout of my pages out of wack.
poppa2
April 03, 2007 at 06:55PM View BBCode
I checked the first 60 players that are listed as retiring from the WW and there are many that were rated F from one side and something else versus the other. There were 12 position players (aged 30-34) that had a mentoring of other than F from both sides. E.G. http://beta.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6335.
Admin
Tyson
April 03, 2007 at 06:55PM View BBCode
I'm playing with that stuff a bit this afternoon. Please excuse any display/graphics problems for today.Tyson
Bruno4
April 09, 2007 at 05:45AM View BBCode
Ty, with your addition to the waiver wire players recieving between 5-10 IC's in the off-season, can you make it a little more random to create a more realistic approach to the subject. If we are going to say that these guys are playing in Japan, or Mexico leagues and such, then some of these guys would be getting close to the same amount of IC's that our roster players are getting. I wouldn't want to see the conversion rate be the same as our roster players cause our players are in the "Big Leagues". Having only 5-10 IC's each year for these waiver wire fodders won't really change the skill of these players very much. For example, say Joe Smith is playing in the Mexican league and earns like 55 IC's. Since the competition is worse, he won't convert as well as our roster players would, but should still be able to have a random chance to convert anywhere from say 5-25 of those IC's. Maybe writting a formula so very few convert up around 25 of those IC's, and the majority converting very few of those IC's. That way you could get a guy like Ichiro to come into the league every once in awhile. That would be cool, and more realistic. Not sure if that is feasable, but if you are going to add a feature like this, I would like to see it make a few guys convert more IC's to add a more realistic twist to the game. At least something similar to what I am suggesting if possible. -Bruno
Bruno4
April 09, 2007 at 05:45AM View formatted
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Ty, with your addition to the waiver wire players recieving between 5-10 IC's in the off-season, can you make it a little more random to create a more realistic approach to the subject. If we are going to say that these guys are playing in Japan, or Mexico leagues and such, then some of these guys would be getting close to the same amount of IC's that our roster players are getting. I wouldn't want to see the conversion rate be the same as our roster players cause our players are in the "Big Leagues". Having only 5-10 IC's each year for these waiver wire fodders won't really change the skill of these players very much. For example, say Joe Smith is playing in the Mexican league and earns like 55 IC's. Since the competition is worse, he won't convert as well as our roster players would, but should still be able to have a random chance to convert anywhere from say 5-25 of those IC's. Maybe writting a formula so very few convert up around 25 of those IC's, and the majority converting very few of those IC's. That way you could get a guy like Ichiro to come into the league every once in awhile. That would be cool, and more realistic. Not sure if that is feasable, but if you are going to add a feature like this, I would like to see it make a few guys convert more IC's to add a more realistic twist to the game. At least something similar to what I am suggesting if possible. -Bruno
Bruno4
April 09, 2007 at 05:46AM View BBCode
Ty, with your addition to the waiver wire players recieving between 5-10 IC's in the off-season, can you make it a little more random to create a more realistic approach to the subject. If we are going to say that these guys are playing in Japan, or Mexico leagues and such, then some of these guys would be getting close to the same amount of IC's that our roster players are getting. I wouldn't want to see the conversion rate be the same as our roster players cause our players are in the "Big Leagues". Having only 5-10 IC's each year for these waiver wire fodders won't really change the skill of these players very much. For example, say Joe Smith is playing in the Mexican league and earns like 55 IC's. Since the competition is worse, he won't convert as well as our roster players would, but should still be able to have a random chance to convert anywhere from say 5-25 of those IC's. Maybe writting a formula so very few convert up around 25 of those IC's, and the majority converting very few of those IC's. That way you could get a guy like Ichiro to come into the league every once in awhile. That would be cool, and more realistic. Not sure if that is feasable, but if you are going to add a feature like this, I would like to see it make a few guys convert more IC's to add a more realistic twist to the game. At least something similar to what I am suggesting if possible. -Bruno
Admin
If I was interested in making Ichiros, I'd probably go about it differently. Maybe put fully developed 28 year olds in the draft occassionaly.
Tyson
April 09, 2007 at 01:17PM View BBCode
My goal isn't to produce an Ichiro. It's to produce more Terry Mulhollands - primarily for teams seeking mentors.If I was interested in making Ichiros, I'd probably go about it differently. Maybe put fully developed 28 year olds in the draft occassionaly.
Tyson
Admin
Player retirements look correct too - I see some mentors who are 30+ years old, but all non-mentors 30 and older seem to have retired.
Tyson
April 10, 2007 at 02:50PM View BBCode
Ok - a lot of this worked this time. I can see info on the player cards for total improvement chances for WW players, but it doesn't seem to be correctly showing which categories he got chances in and whether he suceeded. I will work on that for next OffSeason.Player retirements look correct too - I see some mentors who are 30+ years old, but all non-mentors 30 and older seem to have retired.
Tyson
barterer2002
I ask because as I look at the 31 year olds there are several with lower mentoring but each of them had birthdays after November 1. while the sole remaining 32 and 33 year olds have C- mentoring.
April 10, 2007 at 02:56PM View BBCode
I'm thinking you used C- as the cutoff so anyone over the age of 30 on November 1 who had a mentoring grade lower than C- and was on the waiver wire retired?I ask because as I look at the 31 year olds there are several with lower mentoring but each of them had birthdays after November 1. while the sole remaining 32 and 33 year olds have C- mentoring.
Admin
The goal of that change is just to cut down the WW somewhat so it's quicker for people to load.
Tyson
April 10, 2007 at 03:07PM View BBCode
Actually, I tried to use F mentoring for either category (vs LHP or RHP). If they had some kind of mentoring, they should stick around. Can you find anyone that retired that shouldn't have?The goal of that change is just to cut down the WW somewhat so it's quicker for people to load.
Tyson
Admin
Tyson
April 10, 2007 at 03:08PM View BBCode
It's also probably tough to be 32+, have a mentoring score, and be below C-. Because Age factors in.Tyson
Admin
Tyson
April 10, 2007 at 03:16PM View BBCode
I found the problem with WW ICs. It put the wrong year in the database (should be 1975 instead of 1976). This should work next year.Tyson
tworoosters
April 11, 2007 at 04:18PM View BBCode
Could we have an addition to the "Improvement Report" drop down box that was "Waiver Wire" so that we could easily identify who received WW IC's ?
Admin
Tyson
April 11, 2007 at 04:33PM View BBCode
These will show up as Major league improvements. I'm thinking of changing the verbiage to say OffSeason instead of Majors for accuracy - thoughts?Tyson
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