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yankeekid
Any hope for the Giants?
December 04, 2006 at 02:48AM View BBCode
after recent loss to the Cowboys do they stand a chance at the playoffs?
barterer2002
December 04, 2006 at 03:38AM View BBCode
Aren't they still a wild card team if the season ended today?
scaffdog
@Carolina
Philadelphia
New Orleans
@Washington
Falcons have
@Tampa Bay
Dallas
Carolina
@Philly
Panthers have
@Philly
NY Giants
Pittsburgh
@ Atlanta
@ New Orleans
The X-factors will be the weather @Philly and whether the Saints are playing for a 1st round bye when they get the Panthers.
December 04, 2006 at 03:17PM View formatted
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Giants have
@Carolina
Philadelphia
New Orleans
@Washington
Falcons have
@Tampa Bay
Dallas
Carolina
@Philly
Panthers have
@Philly
NY Giants
Pittsburgh
@ Atlanta
@ New Orleans
The X-factors will be the weather @Philly and whether the Saints are playing for a 1st round bye when they get the Panthers.
max_fischer
If they win and move to 7-5 they will be the only non-division-leader in the NFC with a winning record. That is appalling.
December 04, 2006 at 04:09PM View BBCode
The Panthers play tonight in Philly. They're 6-5 after a devastating loss to the fucking Redskins, but are inexplicably three-point favorites--I guess that's a Donovan discount.If they win and move to 7-5 they will be the only non-division-leader in the NFC with a winning record. That is appalling.
yankeekid
December 04, 2006 at 04:14PM View BBCode
I am just disgusted with them right now, especially last week's horrendous performance.
scaffdog
December 04, 2006 at 09:07PM View BBCode
the funny thing is there are more than 2x as meany winning records in the AFC as in the NFC. Wont it be hilarious if an NFC team wins the Super Bowl?
skierdude44
24/36 270 yards 2 TD 0 INT... Eli's numbers from yesterday. Yes, he's be inconsistent, but that's a bit of an overstatement. That team has a lot of problems, but Eli is not the only cause of them. Missing 6 defensive starters for a number of games doesn't help much, Plaxico Burress giving up on plays time after time, Jeremy Shockey being well... Jeremy Shockey, Coughlin's sideline meltdowns, etc... Eli's been mediocre but he's had some good games too and the Giants' failures are not solely his fault.
Now how about that other New York team?
December 04, 2006 at 09:43PM View BBCode
Originally posted by DeVeau31
Eli sucks.
24/36 270 yards 2 TD 0 INT... Eli's numbers from yesterday. Yes, he's be inconsistent, but that's a bit of an overstatement. That team has a lot of problems, but Eli is not the only cause of them. Missing 6 defensive starters for a number of games doesn't help much, Plaxico Burress giving up on plays time after time, Jeremy Shockey being well... Jeremy Shockey, Coughlin's sideline meltdowns, etc... Eli's been mediocre but he's had some good games too and the Giants' failures are not solely his fault.
Now how about that other New York team?
scaffdog
December 04, 2006 at 09:55PM View BBCode
The Jets are definately a suprise this year, mangini has to be coach of the year if they make the playoffs.
Benne
December 04, 2006 at 11:38PM View BBCode
Sean Payton will still be coach of the year, the turnaround he made of the franchise and what the Saints have done for the city cannot be overstated enough, although Mangini and Jeff Fisher also deserve strong consideration...
lvnwrth
With who at quarterback? It's December. A hot September isn't going to carry Grossman much further.
You can win with a mediocre quarterback...see Trent Dilfer. But you can't totally suck there.
December 04, 2006 at 11:44PM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
I still say the Bears have a good shot at it.
With who at quarterback? It's December. A hot September isn't going to carry Grossman much further.
You can win with a mediocre quarterback...see Trent Dilfer. But you can't totally suck there.
lvnwrth
December 04, 2006 at 11:46PM View BBCode
The Chefs (sic) continue to prove that no matter who the coach is, they can't win on the road in December, no matter how bad the opponent. That loss to Cleveland yesterday, coupled with earlier road losses to Pittsburgh, Miami, simply proves that they are nowhere close to a playoff caliber football team.
Benne
Agreed. If Grossman is even halfway competent, the Bears will always have a chance with their defense and speical teams. But if he continues to crap the bed and put up 1.3 passer ratings, the Bears don't have a prayer in January...
December 04, 2006 at 11:46PM View BBCode
You can win with a mediocre quarterback...see Trent Dilfer. But you can't totally suck there.
Agreed. If Grossman is even halfway competent, the Bears will always have a chance with their defense and speical teams. But if he continues to crap the bed and put up 1.3 passer ratings, the Bears don't have a prayer in January...
lvnwrth
The emotional story of the "post-Katrina" Saints roaring back to respectability all but guarantees Payton will Coach of the Year.
December 05, 2006 at 03:12PM View BBCode
Re: Coach of the YearThe emotional story of the "post-Katrina" Saints roaring back to respectability all but guarantees Payton will Coach of the Year.
scaffdog
December 05, 2006 at 03:34PM View BBCode
Oh yes, the ever popular "emotional" winner. See Tom Osborne's last national Championship.
lvnwrth
December 05, 2006 at 04:56PM View BBCode
Actually,that "national title" was shared with Michigan, as I recall. Michigan won in the writers' poll and Nebraska won in the coaches' poll. Does that mean coaches are more emotional in their votes than the writers?
scaffdog
December 05, 2006 at 05:02PM View BBCode
it means the coaches wanted to send the original TO out with a bang. Michigan was the hands down National CHamp. OFC I think that Peyton Manning was the hands down Heisman until Charles Woodson started running off at the mouth.
lvnwrth
Since they were both undefeated, how can you say it was "hands down"? Nebraska in 1997 was not not exactly comparable to Boise State, or Brigham Young back in the 80's.
December 05, 2006 at 10:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by scaffdog
it means the coaches wanted to send the original TO out with a bang. Michigan was the hands down National CHamp. OFC I think that Peyton Manning was the hands down Heisman until Charles Woodson started running off at the mouth.
Since they were both undefeated, how can you say it was "hands down"? Nebraska in 1997 was not not exactly comparable to Boise State, or Brigham Young back in the 80's.
barterer2002
December 05, 2006 at 10:14PM View BBCode
How did we get on college football again? The "bitch about the polls/BCS" thread is two doors down on the right.
yankeekid
December 05, 2006 at 10:16PM View BBCode
They can talk about it here, :), everyone post on this thread!
scaffdog
December 06, 2006 at 05:24AM View BBCode
why yk? you desperate to win this week? Giants are done, insert forkPages: 1 2