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[Edited on 9-5-2016 by acnunnally]
2000-2004 Veterans' Hall of Fame - DISCUSSION THREAD
September 05, 2016 at 11:43PM View BBCode
This is the discussion thread for the 2000-2004 Veterans' HOF ballot. Please post any thoughts or comments you have on nominees, the ballot, etc. here, but cast your actual votes in the other thread. Thanks![Edited on 9-5-2016 by acnunnally]
GM33
Suzuki, Hideki - SP, PIT -- Given 3 WS titles, good playoff stats may have put him over the edge for me, but effect was the opposite.
LCS: 2-7 in 13 games (9 starts), with 1.59 ERA / 6.54 WHIP
WS: 2-0 in 8 games (4 starts), but accompanied by 1.84 ERA /5.91 WHIP
Sveum, Len - SS, DET/BAL -- Again wanted to vote him in given the 3k hits, but he appears to be a poor man's Barry Larkin (of this league, not MLB) with less power, speed, and defense. Still a quality all star caliber player, but not sure HOF.
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=4195048&statsorimps=stats
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6013709&statsorimps=stats
September 07, 2016 at 03:07PM View formatted
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Two guys in particular to whom I gave pause and didn't make the cut.
Suzuki, Hideki - SP, PIT -- Given 3 WS titles, good playoff stats may have put him over the edge for me, but effect was the opposite.
LCS: 2-7 in 13 games (9 starts), with 1.59 ERA / 6.54 WHIP
WS: 2-0 in 8 games (4 starts), but accompanied by 1.84 ERA /5.91 WHIP
Sveum, Len - SS, DET/BAL -- Again wanted to vote him in given the 3k hits, but he appears to be a poor man's Barry Larkin (of this league, not MLB) with less power, speed, and defense. Still a quality all star caliber player, but not sure HOF.
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=4195048&statsorimps=stats
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6013709&statsorimps=stats
acnunnally
- 245 W and a .631 winning percentage
- 127 CG with 37 shutouts, good for 23rd and 12th all-time
- 4 sub-3.00 ERA seasons and 5 sub-1.15 WHIP seasons
- 3 consecutive 20+ W seasons, plus 5 more of 18-19
- Career WHIP of 1.23 (45th) and ERA of 3.68 (88th), BUT a 9-year peak of...
3.07 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 165-62 (.727 W%, 18.3-6.9 average)
And he won a Cy Young. This guy did it all and shouldn't be penalized for starting his career more slowly with a 9-year streak of dominance like that. BTW, in the 10th year, he went 9-1 with a 2.75 ERA and 1.25 WHIP in relief before retiring.
Vote him in!
September 10, 2016 at 03:24PM View BBCode
I have to disagree on Suzuki. The guy was a durable winner over the long haul--and also a dominant pitcher. Consider:- 245 W and a .631 winning percentage
- 127 CG with 37 shutouts, good for 23rd and 12th all-time
- 4 sub-3.00 ERA seasons and 5 sub-1.15 WHIP seasons
- 3 consecutive 20+ W seasons, plus 5 more of 18-19
- Career WHIP of 1.23 (45th) and ERA of 3.68 (88th), BUT a 9-year peak of...
3.07 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 165-62 (.727 W%, 18.3-6.9 average)
And he won a Cy Young. This guy did it all and shouldn't be penalized for starting his career more slowly with a 9-year streak of dominance like that. BTW, in the 10th year, he went 9-1 with a 2.75 ERA and 1.25 WHIP in relief before retiring.
Vote him in!
GM33
That's a heck of a 9 year stretch. And even though he had a 4.19 ERA the year before that particular stretch, he was still 19-8 and led the league in CG and SHO.
WAS vote cast.
September 11, 2016 at 07:12PM View BBCode
Ok I've been convinced : )That's a heck of a 9 year stretch. And even though he had a 4.19 ERA the year before that particular stretch, he was still 19-8 and led the league in CG and SHO.
WAS vote cast.
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