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larrygc
lefties. He is rated A+ against both for power.
This hitter hit .317 w/ 10 Hrs and 29 RBI IN 1950, .326 w/9 Hrs and 30 RBI in 1951 and is hitting .315 w/ 7 Hrs and 20 RBI in 1952.
Is this normal or has this hitter been lucky?
[Edited on 7-24-2015 by larrygc]
Hitting rating
July 23, 2015 at 02:46PM View BBCode
I am curious as to what is considered normal for a hitter's co0ntact ratings against left and right handers. I have a hitter who is rated c for contact against right handers and c+ againstlefties. He is rated A+ against both for power.
This hitter hit .317 w/ 10 Hrs and 29 RBI IN 1950, .326 w/9 Hrs and 30 RBI in 1951 and is hitting .315 w/ 7 Hrs and 20 RBI in 1952.
Is this normal or has this hitter been lucky?
[Edited on 7-24-2015 by larrygc]
tworoosters
Generally over time that type of hitter will see his average fall into the .260s and struggle to maintain an OBP much above .300 though isolated power may still stay high.
July 23, 2015 at 03:06PM View BBCode
Power is the more important component of hitting in the sim so if he's high in those contact grades, and given that it appears his sample size is small, it's not unheard of for low contact/high power hitters to have success.Generally over time that type of hitter will see his average fall into the .260s and struggle to maintain an OBP much above .300 though isolated power may still stay high.
dirtdevil
July 23, 2015 at 03:15PM View BBCode
both. in a trial league such as the one you're in, those are likely reasonably 'normal' numbers. in a pay league that kind of hitter is more likely to hit, depending on the league, .220-.265 with 20-35 HR.
SIRKERRETH
July 23, 2015 at 04:15PM View BBCode
Isn't speed a factor too? I've noticed that my faster C+ contact hitters hit for a better average than the slower ones. At least in my mind they do.
dirtdevil
July 23, 2015 at 04:16PM View formatted
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absolutely.
larrygc
I agree that speed is a factor too. His speed rating is A- with 17 stolen bases in 27 attempts. Compliments for making that astute point.
I have been playing the game for around six months now and still learning.
As far as pitching goes I have become a believer in control pitchers. I don't like A+ Fastball C+ Control pitchers at all, but I like C+ or B fastball A or higher Control pitchers a lot.
I have arrived at the point I want to figure out what to expect from each level of player.
I am a 65 y/o retired US Army vet who was active in playing ball, fast and slow pitch softball in my army days and baseball in high school. I coached baseball (little league at several age levels) for over 20 years.
I'm too old and in poor health to be involved any more but still love the game and still mentally am competitive. So that is why I enjoy this game as much as I do.
[Edited on 7-23-2015 by larrygc]
July 23, 2015 at 08:24PM View BBCode
This particular player, Jason Pavlecek, has hit 28 home runs in 434 at bats over three seasons in the Frank Quilici League for the New York Mets. He has a career batting average of .323.I agree that speed is a factor too. His speed rating is A- with 17 stolen bases in 27 attempts. Compliments for making that astute point.
I have been playing the game for around six months now and still learning.
As far as pitching goes I have become a believer in control pitchers. I don't like A+ Fastball C+ Control pitchers at all, but I like C+ or B fastball A or higher Control pitchers a lot.
I have arrived at the point I want to figure out what to expect from each level of player.
I am a 65 y/o retired US Army vet who was active in playing ball, fast and slow pitch softball in my army days and baseball in high school. I coached baseball (little league at several age levels) for over 20 years.
I'm too old and in poor health to be involved any more but still love the game and still mentally am competitive. So that is why I enjoy this game as much as I do.
[Edited on 7-23-2015 by larrygc]
Frunobulax
Trial leagues usually have much worse pitchers than dynasty/speed leagues, yes.
Still, with A or A+ speed I'd expect more like a .270-.280 batting average from a C+/A+ batter. If they have worse speed they're usually not worth developing, at least in CP leagues. (I value OBP very high.)
.f
July 25, 2015 at 09:08PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
both. in a trial league such as the one you're in, those are likely reasonably 'normal' numbers. in a pay league that kind of hitter is more likely to hit, depending on the league, .220-.265 with 20-35 HR.
Trial leagues usually have much worse pitchers than dynasty/speed leagues, yes.
Still, with A or A+ speed I'd expect more like a .270-.280 batting average from a C+/A+ batter. If they have worse speed they're usually not worth developing, at least in CP leagues. (I value OBP very high.)
.f
Mongrel
Glad to hear you're enjoying the game. Eventually if you decide to join a pay league, you'll probably find the long term development much more fun than trial leagues. When I first started in speed leagues, I joined one that played 15 GPD so I could get a much better feel for how players develop long-term.
I think you will find the general opinion is that control heavy pitchers and power hitters tend to perform best, but there are certainly exceptions. Generally I give about a half point increase in ratings if a pitcher is control heavy or batter power heavy. For example In ordering starters I'd consider a B+/A+ equal to an A+/A-
Speed is often undervalued, in the toghest leagues, if a player isn't going to reach A- in speed, he may never see regular playing time.
As far as ageing goes, I usually feel like power declines faster for pitchers, and speed is probably the biggest decline for hitters. So a hitter who maybe maxxed at B speed will probably not have a very long career past 34.
July 28, 2015 at 11:06AM View BBCode
Originally posted by larrygc
This particular player, Jason Pavlecek, has hit 28 home runs in 434 at bats over three seasons in the Frank Quilici League for the New York Mets. He has a career batting average of .323.
I agree that speed is a factor too. His speed rating is A- with 17 stolen bases in 27 attempts. Compliments for making that astute point.
I have been playing the game for around six months now and still learning.
As far as pitching goes I have become a believer in control pitchers. I don't like A+ Fastball C+ Control pitchers at all, but I like C+ or B fastball A or higher Control pitchers a lot.
I have arrived at the point I want to figure out what to expect from each level of player.
I am a 65 y/o retired US Army vet who was active in playing ball, fast and slow pitch softball in my army days and baseball in high school. I coached baseball (little league at several age levels) for over 20 years.
I'm too old and in poor health to be involved any more but still love the game and still mentally am competitive. So that is why I enjoy this game as much as I do.
[Edited on 7-23-2015 by larrygc]
Glad to hear you're enjoying the game. Eventually if you decide to join a pay league, you'll probably find the long term development much more fun than trial leagues. When I first started in speed leagues, I joined one that played 15 GPD so I could get a much better feel for how players develop long-term.
I think you will find the general opinion is that control heavy pitchers and power hitters tend to perform best, but there are certainly exceptions. Generally I give about a half point increase in ratings if a pitcher is control heavy or batter power heavy. For example In ordering starters I'd consider a B+/A+ equal to an A+/A-
Speed is often undervalued, in the toghest leagues, if a player isn't going to reach A- in speed, he may never see regular playing time.
As far as ageing goes, I usually feel like power declines faster for pitchers, and speed is probably the biggest decline for hitters. So a hitter who maybe maxxed at B speed will probably not have a very long career past 34.
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