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Santo10
It has been MANY years since any Hall of Famers were selected. There may or may not be several good candidates.
Rules:
Vote for anyone you feel should be in the Hall of Fame
2/3 yes votes of ballots cast for election
Deadline for vote of 1st Baseman: Sunday, February 23rd.
Anyone who receives two votes will be carried to next years ballot of all players.
Hall of Fame Vote - 1st Base
February 16, 2014 at 01:25AM View BBCode
Alright, I finally got this put together. Listed are all the 1st Baseman who retired by 2000, and played in 5 or more All-Star Games. I listed the current Hall of Famers for comparison.It has been MANY years since any Hall of Famers were selected. There may or may not be several good candidates.
Rules:
Vote for anyone you feel should be in the Hall of Fame
2/3 yes votes of ballots cast for election
Deadline for vote of 1st Baseman: Sunday, February 23rd.
Anyone who receives two votes will be carried to next years ballot of all players.
Santo10
Current Hall of Famers
Bernie Lorraine ? Clev Retired 1969 7 All-Star Games
.295 (38)/.365 (48)/.504 (26) 1,611 Runs (19th) 2,714 Hits (34th) 1,510 RBI (24th)
411 HR (21st) 493 Doubles (13th) 999 Walks (41st) OPS .869 (21st)
Led League 1957-51 Doubles, 127 RBIs 1958-127 RBIs 1964-212 Hits
Fred Vick- NYN Retired 1985 13 All-Star Games 3 Gold Gloves
.285/.343/.503 (29) 1,820 Runs (6th) 3,212 Hits (4th) 1,948 RBI (1st)
550 HR (2nd) 499 Doubles (11th) 155 Triples (1st) 1,002 Walks (40th)
Led League 1973-36 Doubles 1975-124 RBIs 1977-134 Runs, 207 Hits, 49 HR, 136 RBI, 1.004 OPS 1979-13 Triples 1980-40 Doubles 1981-125 RBIs
Eligible Candidates (listed by retirement year)
Sean Sloan- KC Retired 1969 8 All-Star Games MVP-1960
.284/.346/.489 1,499 Runs (42nd) 2,684 Hits (40th) 1,656 RBI (11th) 448 HR (12th)
457 Doubles (32nd)
Led League 1960 ? 41 HR, 130 RBI 1961- 39 HR, 135 RBI 1962-145 RBI
1963-36 HR, 135 RBI
Darren Stine- MIL Retired 1969 5 All-Star Games
.273/.332/.459 1,090 Runs 2,056 Hits 1,275 RBI 302 HR
Never Led League in any category
Andy Allison ? NYA, BAL Retired 1975 7 All-Star Games
.296 (31st)/.365 (47th)/.500 (35th) 1,469 Runs (49th) 2,409 Hits 1,202 RBI 343 HR
588 SB (9th) 120 Triples (20th)
Led League 1959- 57 SB 1964 ? 13 Triples 1968 ? 52 SB
Jim Tubbs ? PHI Retired 1971 6 All-Star Games 1966-MVP
.296 (35th)/.364/.452 1,448 Runs 2,584 Hits 1,079 RBI 232 HR
656 SB (5th) 129 Triples (9th)
Led League 1956- 53 SB 1957- 16 Triples, 47 SB 1959- 16 Triples 1960 ? 219 Hits, 49 SB
1962- 46 SB, 1964- 60 SB, 1966 -66 SB, 1967 ? 57 SB
(MOVING HIM TO 3B as he played more games there)
Bill Walker ? CIN Retired 1980 8 All-Star Games 1966- Rookie of the Year
.286/.361/.459 1,189 Runs 2,267 Hits 1,176 RBI 288 HR
Led League 1966 ? 92 Walks 1974- 212 Hits, 48 Doubles, .335 AVG
Shaun Goebel ? DET Retired 1985 9 All-Star Games 1980-MVP
.294 (50th)/.355/.507 (20th) 1,483 Runs (45th) 2,532 Hits 1,440 RBI (34th)
405 HR (30th) 120 Triples (20)
Led League 1968 ? 39 Doubles 1973 - .335 AVG 1980 - .600 SLG 1981 - .557 SLG
Pat Walsh CLE, BAL Retired 1978 5 All-Star Games
.282/.343/.456 976 Runs 1,837 Hits 1,005 RBI 238 HR
Never Led League in any category
Roy Caraballo PIT Retired 1981 7 All-Star Games
.273/.332/.443 1,186 Runs 2,225 Hits 1,192 RBI 303 HR
Led League 1978- 203 Hits, 137 RBI
Billy Bunning KC Retired 1981 5 All-Star Games
.267/.319/.437 923 Runs 1,825 Hits 1,006 RBI 264 HR
Never Led League in any category (other than games played)
Tom Welf MIL Retired 1988 8 All-Star Games 1985-MVP 1987-Gold Glove
.289/.352/.493 (47th) 1,361 Runs 2,476 Hits 1,428 RBI (37th) 403 HR (33rd)
Never Led League in any category
Dushon Mangus CHA, OAK Retired 1994 5 All-Star Games 1980-ROY
.295 (38th)/.362/.480 1,326 Runs 2,362 Hits 1,120 RBI 270 HR
468 Doubles (25th)
Led League 1985 ? 41 Doubles 1986 ? 12 Triples
Terry Corey BOS Retired 1996 6 All-Star Games 1985-MVP 1979-ROY
.300 (17th)/.378 (9th)/.470 1,614 Runs (20th) 2,664 Hits (42nd) 1,062 RBI 295 HR
477 Doubles (22nd)
Led League 1984- .432 OBP, .964 OPS 1985- .346 AVG, .416 OBP 1994- 40 SB
Tom Goulait NYN, LAN Retired 1998 6 All-Star Games 1989, 1991 ? Gold Glove
.301 (16th)/.372 (22nd) /.450 1,327 Runs 2,511 Hits 1,070 RBI 210 HR
433 Doubles (47th) 461 SB (27th)
Led League 1989- 49 SB 1991- 200 Hits
[Edited on 2-18-2014 by Santo10]
February 16, 2014 at 01:25AM View BBCode
1st BasemenCurrent Hall of Famers
Bernie Lorraine ? Clev Retired 1969 7 All-Star Games
.295 (38)/.365 (48)/.504 (26) 1,611 Runs (19th) 2,714 Hits (34th) 1,510 RBI (24th)
411 HR (21st) 493 Doubles (13th) 999 Walks (41st) OPS .869 (21st)
Led League 1957-51 Doubles, 127 RBIs 1958-127 RBIs 1964-212 Hits
Fred Vick- NYN Retired 1985 13 All-Star Games 3 Gold Gloves
.285/.343/.503 (29) 1,820 Runs (6th) 3,212 Hits (4th) 1,948 RBI (1st)
550 HR (2nd) 499 Doubles (11th) 155 Triples (1st) 1,002 Walks (40th)
Led League 1973-36 Doubles 1975-124 RBIs 1977-134 Runs, 207 Hits, 49 HR, 136 RBI, 1.004 OPS 1979-13 Triples 1980-40 Doubles 1981-125 RBIs
Eligible Candidates (listed by retirement year)
Sean Sloan- KC Retired 1969 8 All-Star Games MVP-1960
.284/.346/.489 1,499 Runs (42nd) 2,684 Hits (40th) 1,656 RBI (11th) 448 HR (12th)
457 Doubles (32nd)
Led League 1960 ? 41 HR, 130 RBI 1961- 39 HR, 135 RBI 1962-145 RBI
1963-36 HR, 135 RBI
Darren Stine- MIL Retired 1969 5 All-Star Games
.273/.332/.459 1,090 Runs 2,056 Hits 1,275 RBI 302 HR
Never Led League in any category
Andy Allison ? NYA, BAL Retired 1975 7 All-Star Games
.296 (31st)/.365 (47th)/.500 (35th) 1,469 Runs (49th) 2,409 Hits 1,202 RBI 343 HR
588 SB (9th) 120 Triples (20th)
Led League 1959- 57 SB 1964 ? 13 Triples 1968 ? 52 SB
Jim Tubbs ? PHI Retired 1971 6 All-Star Games 1966-MVP
.296 (35th)/.364/.452 1,448 Runs 2,584 Hits 1,079 RBI 232 HR
656 SB (5th) 129 Triples (9th)
Led League 1956- 53 SB 1957- 16 Triples, 47 SB 1959- 16 Triples 1960 ? 219 Hits, 49 SB
1962- 46 SB, 1964- 60 SB, 1966 -66 SB, 1967 ? 57 SB
(MOVING HIM TO 3B as he played more games there)
Bill Walker ? CIN Retired 1980 8 All-Star Games 1966- Rookie of the Year
.286/.361/.459 1,189 Runs 2,267 Hits 1,176 RBI 288 HR
Led League 1966 ? 92 Walks 1974- 212 Hits, 48 Doubles, .335 AVG
Shaun Goebel ? DET Retired 1985 9 All-Star Games 1980-MVP
.294 (50th)/.355/.507 (20th) 1,483 Runs (45th) 2,532 Hits 1,440 RBI (34th)
405 HR (30th) 120 Triples (20)
Led League 1968 ? 39 Doubles 1973 - .335 AVG 1980 - .600 SLG 1981 - .557 SLG
Pat Walsh CLE, BAL Retired 1978 5 All-Star Games
.282/.343/.456 976 Runs 1,837 Hits 1,005 RBI 238 HR
Never Led League in any category
Roy Caraballo PIT Retired 1981 7 All-Star Games
.273/.332/.443 1,186 Runs 2,225 Hits 1,192 RBI 303 HR
Led League 1978- 203 Hits, 137 RBI
Billy Bunning KC Retired 1981 5 All-Star Games
.267/.319/.437 923 Runs 1,825 Hits 1,006 RBI 264 HR
Never Led League in any category (other than games played)
Tom Welf MIL Retired 1988 8 All-Star Games 1985-MVP 1987-Gold Glove
.289/.352/.493 (47th) 1,361 Runs 2,476 Hits 1,428 RBI (37th) 403 HR (33rd)
Never Led League in any category
Dushon Mangus CHA, OAK Retired 1994 5 All-Star Games 1980-ROY
.295 (38th)/.362/.480 1,326 Runs 2,362 Hits 1,120 RBI 270 HR
468 Doubles (25th)
Led League 1985 ? 41 Doubles 1986 ? 12 Triples
Terry Corey BOS Retired 1996 6 All-Star Games 1985-MVP 1979-ROY
.300 (17th)/.378 (9th)/.470 1,614 Runs (20th) 2,664 Hits (42nd) 1,062 RBI 295 HR
477 Doubles (22nd)
Led League 1984- .432 OBP, .964 OPS 1985- .346 AVG, .416 OBP 1994- 40 SB
Tom Goulait NYN, LAN Retired 1998 6 All-Star Games 1989, 1991 ? Gold Glove
.301 (16th)/.372 (22nd) /.450 1,327 Runs 2,511 Hits 1,070 RBI 210 HR
433 Doubles (47th) 461 SB (27th)
Led League 1989- 49 SB 1991- 200 Hits
[Edited on 2-18-2014 by Santo10]
TheBigKahuna0
Sloan
Goebel
Tubbs
February 16, 2014 at 02:32AM View BBCode
That's a long list. I'll start us out.Sloan
Goebel
Tubbs
SIRKERRETH
Sean Sloan
Jim Tubbs
Shaun Goebel
In addition we'd like to vote for,
Terry Corey, and Andy Allison for the sole purpose of carrying them over to
next year.
Thanks Santo, love the way you arranged the stats. It makes comparisons very easy with all the info at your fingertips. :D
February 16, 2014 at 04:27PM View formatted
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The Los Angeles NightCats vote for :
Sean Sloan
Jim Tubbs
Shaun Goebel
In addition we'd like to vote for,
Terry Corey, and Andy Allison for the sole purpose of carrying them over to
next year.
Thanks Santo, love the way you arranged the stats. It makes comparisons very easy with all the info at your fingertips. :D
Q_142857
Allison
Corey
Goebel
Sloan
Caraballo (+132 defensive rating!)
February 17, 2014 at 02:34AM View BBCode
This might be a little contrarian:Allison
Corey
Goebel
Sloan
Caraballo (+132 defensive rating!)
Q_142857
Also, I think the 5 All-Star appearances vote is too strict. For instance, in future votes, Ken Hiser only made 4 All-Star teams and thus would be left out even though he has like the third highest OPS in the history of this league. I don't think anyone was left out this time, but maybe a better criterion would be 5 All-Star appearances OR 1 All-Star appearance and a career OPS > .800. This would not be too much more work, and would lead to a more complete process.
Anyways, I would like to thank Santo10 for going through all the work to do this. It's been a lot of fun.
February 18, 2014 at 03:38AM View BBCode
I just discovered that Jim Tubbs played the vast majority of his games at 3B, and so he should probably be in that vote.Also, I think the 5 All-Star appearances vote is too strict. For instance, in future votes, Ken Hiser only made 4 All-Star teams and thus would be left out even though he has like the third highest OPS in the history of this league. I don't think anyone was left out this time, but maybe a better criterion would be 5 All-Star appearances OR 1 All-Star appearance and a career OPS > .800. This would not be too much more work, and would lead to a more complete process.
Anyways, I would like to thank Santo10 for going through all the work to do this. It's been a lot of fun.
Santo10
There will be a few players without 5 All-Star appearances that are very high in overall stats that I will include. Usually, that isn't the case. I arbitrarily made a cutoff so that the list would not be so incredibly long. Some of these 5+ All-Stars are good, but not Hall of Fame material.
If I miss somebody you think needs to be in there, please let me know.
February 18, 2014 at 02:57PM View BBCode
Good catch on Tubbs...sorry I missed that. He was an all-star at each position. So we are going to move Tubbs to the 3rd base group.There will be a few players without 5 All-Star appearances that are very high in overall stats that I will include. Usually, that isn't the case. I arbitrarily made a cutoff so that the list would not be so incredibly long. Some of these 5+ All-Stars are good, but not Hall of Fame material.
If I miss somebody you think needs to be in there, please let me know.
Santo10
11 Ballots Cast
8 Needed for Election
Sloan 10
Goebel 7
Tubbs 7 (but was moved to 3b due to majority of games played at third...so he will be in the 3b election)
Corey 5
Allison 5
Welf 2
Caraballo 1
SLOAN was Elected to the Hall of Fame
Goebel, Corey, Allison, and Welf will carry over onto the ballot for next year
February 24, 2014 at 02:34PM View BBCode
Here is the final vote talley:11 Ballots Cast
8 Needed for Election
Sloan 10
Goebel 7
Tubbs 7 (but was moved to 3b due to majority of games played at third...so he will be in the 3b election)
Corey 5
Allison 5
Welf 2
Caraballo 1
SLOAN was Elected to the Hall of Fame
Goebel, Corey, Allison, and Welf will carry over onto the ballot for next year
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