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A trade has been completed between the Houston Colts and the Cleveland Spiders. The Cleveland Spiders receive Dom Gale, Lyle Hernandez, Don Bell, Draft Pick - 1996 Round 1 (HOU) from the Houston Colts in exchange for Brian Miller, Joe Abbott, Grady Barker, Tariq Lewis.
Player card link: http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6011324
Starting sometime today or tomorrow on the game side at www.simdynasty.com, you should see a red link or popup window asking for your opinion. If 66% of the owners who vote, vote to overturn, we will reverse the trade. Owners involved in the trade are not eligible to vote. We will allow all owners at least 3 days to vote.
In the event that there are draft picks involved, the draft runs before voting concludes, and the trade is reversed, we will clone players to make things right for the two owners involved.
See this thread for info on this process:
http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=146616
We will also included a 3rd parties unbiased opinion of the deal. This is from an experienced owner, who only looked at the trade itself and has no knowledge of who owns the teams. I have asked him to post that here when he gets a minute. The reason we ask him to give an opinion is because of past complaints in other trade protest proceedings where owners felt that someone should give an unbiased opinion of the deal. Of course, I don't want to become entangled in these kind of league matters myself so that's why we bring in an outsider to give an opinion. You can do whatever you like with his opinion.
I also ask that you refrain from publicly discussing the trade. Nothing good ever comes of those discussions. Public discussion of the trade may result in you losing your posting privileges.
If either of the owners involved in the trade would like their comments attached to this thread, please post a private note in Support.
Thanks,
Tyson
Trade Vote
April 28, 2011 at 08:31PM View BBCode
We have received 3 complaints on this trade:A trade has been completed between the Houston Colts and the Cleveland Spiders. The Cleveland Spiders receive Dom Gale, Lyle Hernandez, Don Bell, Draft Pick - 1996 Round 1 (HOU) from the Houston Colts in exchange for Brian Miller, Joe Abbott, Grady Barker, Tariq Lewis.
Player card link: http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=6011324
Starting sometime today or tomorrow on the game side at www.simdynasty.com, you should see a red link or popup window asking for your opinion. If 66% of the owners who vote, vote to overturn, we will reverse the trade. Owners involved in the trade are not eligible to vote. We will allow all owners at least 3 days to vote.
In the event that there are draft picks involved, the draft runs before voting concludes, and the trade is reversed, we will clone players to make things right for the two owners involved.
See this thread for info on this process:
http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=146616
We will also included a 3rd parties unbiased opinion of the deal. This is from an experienced owner, who only looked at the trade itself and has no knowledge of who owns the teams. I have asked him to post that here when he gets a minute. The reason we ask him to give an opinion is because of past complaints in other trade protest proceedings where owners felt that someone should give an unbiased opinion of the deal. Of course, I don't want to become entangled in these kind of league matters myself so that's why we bring in an outsider to give an opinion. You can do whatever you like with his opinion.
I also ask that you refrain from publicly discussing the trade. Nothing good ever comes of those discussions. Public discussion of the trade may result in you losing your posting privileges.
If either of the owners involved in the trade would like their comments attached to this thread, please post a private note in Support.
Thanks,
Tyson
barterer2002
Cleveland gets
Dom Gale an OS21 SP with B/C+ attributes. he projects out, if fully developed (and that would be in the minors until age 23 at least), to an A/B type of pitcher maybe a tick higher. A solid starter out there.
Lyle Hernandez an OS26 2B with B+/A- B/B+ attributes. He can hit righties but not so much against lefties. He's A+ at all three IF slots and is a top back up IMO, especially against righties.
Don Bell an OS20 RP with C/B- attributes and a D- endurance. He'll never be a starter. He projects out as B+/A+ to A-/A+ as a shut down closer if fully developed.
First round pick which appears to be the Number 1 overall pick in the draft.
In exchange Houston gets (I hope its a lot)
Brian Miller an OS34 RP with B+/A+ attributes. A stud who's essentially renting a little as he's closing in on retirement. Maybe either a year and a half or a half year rental
Joe Abbott an OS30 C with B-/A- B-/A+ attributes and an A arm. He's OK I guess. Mostly a back up type but can start on a bad team or platoon against lefties. Nothing special
Grady Barker an OS32 SP with A+/B- attributes. A+/B- guys are going to be frustrating as they'll pair a good year with 2 bad years. He's got 2 seasons left before decline and will drop off quickly as C+ control guys become rather useless.
Tariq Lewis an OS35 OF/1B with B-/A+ B/A+ attributes. He's been a great player but is ALREADY a year into his decline.
OK, lets be clear here. This is a horrible trade. Why is Houston, which is the worst team in the league, trading away youth and picks for old guys who are retiring. He should be able to get more than what he got just for the number one pick in the draft. Guys like Lewis and Miller are generally worth a late second round pick at this point in their careers.
Don't know the story with these owners but this is a particularly bad deal.
[Edited on 4-29-2011 by Admin]
April 28, 2011 at 09:33PM View BBCode
SO lets try this again with a different tradeCleveland gets
Dom Gale an OS21 SP with B/C+ attributes. he projects out, if fully developed (and that would be in the minors until age 23 at least), to an A/B type of pitcher maybe a tick higher. A solid starter out there.
Lyle Hernandez an OS26 2B with B+/A- B/B+ attributes. He can hit righties but not so much against lefties. He's A+ at all three IF slots and is a top back up IMO, especially against righties.
Don Bell an OS20 RP with C/B- attributes and a D- endurance. He'll never be a starter. He projects out as B+/A+ to A-/A+ as a shut down closer if fully developed.
First round pick which appears to be the Number 1 overall pick in the draft.
In exchange Houston gets (I hope its a lot)
Brian Miller an OS34 RP with B+/A+ attributes. A stud who's essentially renting a little as he's closing in on retirement. Maybe either a year and a half or a half year rental
Joe Abbott an OS30 C with B-/A- B-/A+ attributes and an A arm. He's OK I guess. Mostly a back up type but can start on a bad team or platoon against lefties. Nothing special
Grady Barker an OS32 SP with A+/B- attributes. A+/B- guys are going to be frustrating as they'll pair a good year with 2 bad years. He's got 2 seasons left before decline and will drop off quickly as C+ control guys become rather useless.
Tariq Lewis an OS35 OF/1B with B-/A+ B/A+ attributes. He's been a great player but is ALREADY a year into his decline.
OK, lets be clear here. This is a horrible trade. Why is Houston, which is the worst team in the league, trading away youth and picks for old guys who are retiring. He should be able to get more than what he got just for the number one pick in the draft. Guys like Lewis and Miller are generally worth a late second round pick at this point in their careers.
Don't know the story with these owners but this is a particularly bad deal.
[Edited on 4-29-2011 by Admin]
Classics
Tyson
[Edited on 4-28-2011 by Admin]
April 28, 2011 at 09:57PM View formatted
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Hi - please no public trade comments.
Tyson
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pecker247
April 28, 2011 at 10:03PM View BBCode
Barterer thanks for the trade advice but it appears you gave advice on the wrong trade complaint.
barterer2002
April 29, 2011 at 12:38AM View BBCode
That's the trade that's in the link in the opening thread. If that's the incorrect one, you need to bring it to Tyson's attention, I only deal with the one that's put in front of me.
pecker247
A trade has been completed between the Houston Colts and the Cleveland Spiders. The Cleveland Spiders receive Dom Gale, Lyle Hernandez, Don Bell, Draft Pick - 1996 Round 1 (HOU) from the Houston Colts in exchange for Brian Miller, Joe Abbott, Grady Barker, Tariq Lewis.
April 29, 2011 at 12:45AM View BBCode
It appears admin has messed up. I don't care one way or the other, but I just figured you wanted to talk about the trade that some of the people don't like.A trade has been completed between the Houston Colts and the Cleveland Spiders. The Cleveland Spiders receive Dom Gale, Lyle Hernandez, Don Bell, Draft Pick - 1996 Round 1 (HOU) from the Houston Colts in exchange for Brian Miller, Joe Abbott, Grady Barker, Tariq Lewis.
barterer2002
April 29, 2011 at 12:48AM View BBCode
You'll have to give me a link to one of the players please
barterer2002
April 29, 2011 at 12:56AM View BBCode
OK pogue has PMed me a link give me a minute to look at it and write it up
barterer2002
Cleveland gets
Dom Gale an OS21 SP with B/C+ attributes. he projects out, if fully developed (and that would be in the minors until age 23 at least), to an A/B type of pitcher maybe a tick higher. A solid starter out there.
Lyle Hernandez an OS26 2B with B+/A- B/B+ attributes. He can hit righties but not so much against lefties. He's A+ at all three IF slots and is a top back up IMO, especially against righties.
Don Bell an OS20 RP with C/B- attributes and a D- endurance. He'll never be a starter. He projects out as B+/A+ to A-/A+ as a shut down closer if fully developed.
First round pick which appears to be the Number 1 overall pick in the draft.
In exchange Houston gets (I hope its a lot)
Brian Miller an OS34 RP with B+/A+ attributes. A stud who's essentially renting a little as he's closing in on retirement. Maybe either a year and a half or a half year rental
Joe Abbott an OS30 C with B-/A- B-/A+ attributes and an A arm. He's OK I guess. Mostly a back up type but can start on a bad team or platoon against lefties. Nothing special
Grady Barker an OS32 SP with A+/B- attributes. A+/B- guys are going to be frustrating as they'll pair a good year with 2 bad years. He's got 2 seasons left before decline and will drop off quickly as C+ control guys become rather useless.
Tariq Lewis an OS35 OF/1B with B-/A+ B/A+ attributes. He's been a great player but is ALREADY a year into his decline.
OK, lets be clear here. This is a horrible trade. Why is Houston, which is the worst team in the league, trading away youth and picks for old guys who are retiring. He should be able to get more than what he got just for the number one pick in the draft. Guys like Lewis and Miller are generally worth a late second round pick at this point in their careers.
Don't know the story with these owners but this is a particularly bad deal.
April 29, 2011 at 01:15AM View BBCode
SO lets try this again with a different tradeCleveland gets
Dom Gale an OS21 SP with B/C+ attributes. he projects out, if fully developed (and that would be in the minors until age 23 at least), to an A/B type of pitcher maybe a tick higher. A solid starter out there.
Lyle Hernandez an OS26 2B with B+/A- B/B+ attributes. He can hit righties but not so much against lefties. He's A+ at all three IF slots and is a top back up IMO, especially against righties.
Don Bell an OS20 RP with C/B- attributes and a D- endurance. He'll never be a starter. He projects out as B+/A+ to A-/A+ as a shut down closer if fully developed.
First round pick which appears to be the Number 1 overall pick in the draft.
In exchange Houston gets (I hope its a lot)
Brian Miller an OS34 RP with B+/A+ attributes. A stud who's essentially renting a little as he's closing in on retirement. Maybe either a year and a half or a half year rental
Joe Abbott an OS30 C with B-/A- B-/A+ attributes and an A arm. He's OK I guess. Mostly a back up type but can start on a bad team or platoon against lefties. Nothing special
Grady Barker an OS32 SP with A+/B- attributes. A+/B- guys are going to be frustrating as they'll pair a good year with 2 bad years. He's got 2 seasons left before decline and will drop off quickly as C+ control guys become rather useless.
Tariq Lewis an OS35 OF/1B with B-/A+ B/A+ attributes. He's been a great player but is ALREADY a year into his decline.
OK, lets be clear here. This is a horrible trade. Why is Houston, which is the worst team in the league, trading away youth and picks for old guys who are retiring. He should be able to get more than what he got just for the number one pick in the draft. Guys like Lewis and Miller are generally worth a late second round pick at this point in their careers.
Don't know the story with these owners but this is a particularly bad deal.
Classics
April 29, 2011 at 02:46AM View BBCode
Young eager owner. Wants to do something, waiting is hard. LOL!! I jnow that's how I ruin my first team. Thanks
Classics
April 29, 2011 at 02:46AM View BBCode
Young eager owner. Wants to do something, waiting is hard. LOL!! I jnow that's how I ruined my first team. Thanks
Classics
April 29, 2011 at 02:47AM View BBCode
Young eager owner. Wants to do something, waiting is hard. LOL!! I know that's how I ruined my first team. Thanks
Classics
April 29, 2011 at 02:50AM View BBCode
Originally posted by ClassicsTodays lesson , DRINK is not good for you???
Young eager owner. Wants to do something, waiting is hard. LOL!! I know that's how I ruined my first team. Thanks
pecker247
April 29, 2011 at 02:51AM View BBCode
ha ha. I am glad I wasn't the one posting for once. ha ha ha. I love this league.
Classics
April 29, 2011 at 03:09AM View BBCode
Been quiet lately !! I would deny drinking and claim glitch... But you guys know me too well.
Admin
Tyson
April 29, 2011 at 05:22PM View BBCode
We had 10 people vote to overturn, and 4 vote to let it stand. That fulfills the 66% requirement, so the trade has been reversed.Tyson
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