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Hamilton2
Draft Order
March 11, 2011 at 10:01PM View BBCode
I'm considering putting together a table with the draft order from the entire draft. Would anyone else be interested in seeing this?
Hamilton2
I'm going to just start with the starting 22. I realize that the 3rd WR, 3rd CB, and 4th LB are probably really important to include as far as depth goes, but I'll start with this and see what happens.
March 11, 2011 at 10:51PM View BBCode
You can view the spreadsheet [url=https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AuhkRXDJBsYNdGRITjhPUmlLcVNNMmNVSTNwd25CQ1E&output=html]through this link[/url]. I'm going to go through the draft after it runs and fill in the rest of the grid. If anyone wants to help me out by posting their own draft positions, that would be great. If not, that's fine too.I'm going to just start with the starting 22. I realize that the 3rd WR, 3rd CB, and 4th LB are probably really important to include as far as depth goes, but I'll start with this and see what happens.
redcped
Round 1
QB
Will pick 9th
Round 2
RB
Will pick 6th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 4
LB
Will pick 11th
Round 5
S
Will pick 2nd
Round 6
T
Will pick 2nd
Round 7
DT
Will pick 1st
Round 8
DE
Will pick 14th
Round 9
CB
Will pick 13th
Round 10
C
Will pick 2nd
Round 11
QB
Will pick 1st
Round 12
RB
Will pick 3rd
Round 13
WR
Will pick 7th
Round 14
LB
Will pick 14th
Round 15
G
Will pick 2nd
Round 16
T
Will pick 5th
Round 17
DT
Will pick 3rd
Round 18
DE
Will pick 2nd
Round 19
CB
Will pick 14th
Round 20
K
Will pick 3rd
Round 21
TE
Will pick 4th
Round 22
RB
Will pick 1st
Round 23
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 24
LB
Will pick 15th
Round 25
G
Will pick 6th
Round 26
T
Will pick 2nd
Round 27
DT
Will pick 13th
Round 28
DE
Will pick 15th
Round 29
S
Will pick 2nd
Round 30
P
Will pick 3rd
Round 31
TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 32
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 33
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 34
LB
Will pick 1st
Round 35
G
Will pick 2nd
Round 36
S
Will pick 4th
Round 37
KR
Will pick 15th
Round 38
CB
Will pick 4th
Round 39
H
Will pick 1st
Round 40
C
Will pick 4th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 3rd
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 4th
Round 44
LB
Will pick 2nd
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 2nd
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 1st
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 48
KR
Will pick 14th
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 16th
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 3rd
March 11, 2011 at 11:19PM View BBCode
Michigan WolverinesRound 1
QB
Will pick 9th
Round 2
RB
Will pick 6th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 4
LB
Will pick 11th
Round 5
S
Will pick 2nd
Round 6
T
Will pick 2nd
Round 7
DT
Will pick 1st
Round 8
DE
Will pick 14th
Round 9
CB
Will pick 13th
Round 10
C
Will pick 2nd
Round 11
QB
Will pick 1st
Round 12
RB
Will pick 3rd
Round 13
WR
Will pick 7th
Round 14
LB
Will pick 14th
Round 15
G
Will pick 2nd
Round 16
T
Will pick 5th
Round 17
DT
Will pick 3rd
Round 18
DE
Will pick 2nd
Round 19
CB
Will pick 14th
Round 20
K
Will pick 3rd
Round 21
TE
Will pick 4th
Round 22
RB
Will pick 1st
Round 23
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 24
LB
Will pick 15th
Round 25
G
Will pick 6th
Round 26
T
Will pick 2nd
Round 27
DT
Will pick 13th
Round 28
DE
Will pick 15th
Round 29
S
Will pick 2nd
Round 30
P
Will pick 3rd
Round 31
TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 32
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 33
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 34
LB
Will pick 1st
Round 35
G
Will pick 2nd
Round 36
S
Will pick 4th
Round 37
KR
Will pick 15th
Round 38
CB
Will pick 4th
Round 39
H
Will pick 1st
Round 40
C
Will pick 4th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 3rd
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 4th
Round 44
LB
Will pick 2nd
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 2nd
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 1st
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 48
KR
Will pick 14th
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 16th
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 3rd
tworoosters
RB -3 DE -7
RB -16 DT -12
WR -3 DT -1
WR -4 LB -14
TE -15 LB -12
C -14 LB -11
G -11 CB -14
G -4 CB -1
T -2 S -1
T -11 S -7
K - 8 P -1
March 11, 2011 at 11:28PM View BBCode
QB -4 DE -12RB -3 DE -7
RB -16 DT -12
WR -3 DT -1
WR -4 LB -14
TE -15 LB -12
C -14 LB -11
G -11 CB -14
G -4 CB -1
T -2 S -1
T -11 S -7
K - 8 P -1
jetpac
Round 1
QB
Will pick 2nd
Round 2
RB
Will pick 4th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 2nd
Round 4
LB
Will pick 13th
Round 5
S
Will pick 14th
Round 6
T
Will pick 3rd
Round 7
DT
Will pick 14th
Round 8
DE
Will pick 13th
Round 9
CB
Will pick 14th
Round 10
C
Will pick 3rd
Round 11
QB
Will pick 15th
Round 12
RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 13
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 14
LB
Will pick 15th
Round 15
G
Will pick 7th
Round 16
T
Will pick 4th
Round 17
DT
Will pick 13th
Round 18
DE
Will pick 10th
Round 19
CB
Will pick 9th
Round 20
K
Will pick 2nd
Round 21
TE
Will pick 14th
Round 22
RB
Will pick 16th
Round 23
WR
Will pick 2nd
Round 24
LB
Will pick 5th
Round 25
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 26
T
Will pick 14th
Round 27
DT
Will pick 10th
Round 28
DE
Will pick 11th
Round 29
S
Will pick 13th
Round 30
P
Will pick 2nd
Round 31
TE
Will pick 9th
Round 32
RB
Will pick 6th
Round 33
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 34
LB
Will pick 13th
Round 35
G
Will pick 14th
Round 36
S
Will pick 13th
Round 37
KR
Will pick 11th
Round 38
CB
Will pick 12th
Round 39
H
Will pick 6th
Round 40
C
Will pick 9th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 7th
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 8th
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 5th
Round 44
LB
Will pick 4th
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 15th
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 10th
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 13th
Round 48
KR
Will pick 10th
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 11th
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 7th
March 11, 2011 at 11:29PM View BBCode
New York KnightsRound 1
QB
Will pick 2nd
Round 2
RB
Will pick 4th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 2nd
Round 4
LB
Will pick 13th
Round 5
S
Will pick 14th
Round 6
T
Will pick 3rd
Round 7
DT
Will pick 14th
Round 8
DE
Will pick 13th
Round 9
CB
Will pick 14th
Round 10
C
Will pick 3rd
Round 11
QB
Will pick 15th
Round 12
RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 13
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 14
LB
Will pick 15th
Round 15
G
Will pick 7th
Round 16
T
Will pick 4th
Round 17
DT
Will pick 13th
Round 18
DE
Will pick 10th
Round 19
CB
Will pick 9th
Round 20
K
Will pick 2nd
Round 21
TE
Will pick 14th
Round 22
RB
Will pick 16th
Round 23
WR
Will pick 2nd
Round 24
LB
Will pick 5th
Round 25
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 26
T
Will pick 14th
Round 27
DT
Will pick 10th
Round 28
DE
Will pick 11th
Round 29
S
Will pick 13th
Round 30
P
Will pick 2nd
Round 31
TE
Will pick 9th
Round 32
RB
Will pick 6th
Round 33
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 34
LB
Will pick 13th
Round 35
G
Will pick 14th
Round 36
S
Will pick 13th
Round 37
KR
Will pick 11th
Round 38
CB
Will pick 12th
Round 39
H
Will pick 6th
Round 40
C
Will pick 9th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 7th
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 8th
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 5th
Round 44
LB
Will pick 4th
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 15th
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 10th
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 13th
Round 48
KR
Will pick 10th
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 11th
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 7th
Hamilton2
[Edited on 3-11-2011 by Hamilton2]
March 11, 2011 at 11:36PM View BBCode
OK, I should have NY and NO in there now. (You can't both be picking 14th at the 1st round of CB's ...)[Edited on 3-11-2011 by Hamilton2]
redcped
March 11, 2011 at 11:43PM View BBCode
Can you add a line that shows average draft position for all starters?
Hamilton2
Can you add a line that shows average draft position for all starters? [/quote]
Yes I can. Do you just want the starting 22 (offense/defense) or do you want me to include the K/P in there?
March 12, 2011 at 12:04AM View formatted
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[quote][i]Originally posted by redcped[/i]
Can you add a line that shows average draft position for all starters? [/quote]
Yes I can. Do you just want the starting 22 (offense/defense) or do you want me to include the K/P in there?
KLKRTR
Round 1
QB
Will pick 6th
Round 2
RB
Will pick 5th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 4
LB
Will pick 12th
Round 5
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 6
T
Will pick 4th
Round 7
DT
Will pick 3rd
Round 8
DE
Will pick 1st
Round 9
CB
Will pick 1st
Round 10
C
Will pick 15th
Round 11
QB
Will pick 10th
Round 12
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 13
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 14
LB
Will pick 4th
Round 15
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 16
T
Will pick 3rd
Round 17
DT
Will pick 2nd
Round 18
DE
Will pick 1st
Round 19
CB
Will pick 3rd
Round 20
K
Will pick 4th
Round 21
TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 22
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 23
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 24
LB
Will pick 3rd
Round 25
G
Will pick 5th
Round 26
T
Will pick 4th
Round 27
DT
Will pick 1st
Round 28
DE
Will pick 2nd
Round 29
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 30
P
Will pick 4th
Round 31
TE
Will pick 2nd
Round 32
RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 33
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 34
LB
Will pick 3rd
Round 35
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 36
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 37
KR
Will pick 3rd
Round 38
CB
Will pick 5th
Round 39
H
Will pick 14th
Round 40
C
Will pick 5th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 3rd
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 4th
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 3rd
Round 44
LB
Will pick 1st
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 3rd
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 15th
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 2nd
Round 48
KR
Will pick 2nd
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 2nd
Snaking Draft: 16th-->1st-->16th
Above Salary Cap by 15665 before cuts.
This was a terrible draft on my part..
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by KLKRTR]
March 12, 2011 at 05:10AM View BBCode
Montreal BlizzardRound 1
QB
Will pick 6th
Round 2
RB
Will pick 5th
Round 3
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 4
LB
Will pick 12th
Round 5
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 6
T
Will pick 4th
Round 7
DT
Will pick 3rd
Round 8
DE
Will pick 1st
Round 9
CB
Will pick 1st
Round 10
C
Will pick 15th
Round 11
QB
Will pick 10th
Round 12
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 13
WR
Will pick 6th
Round 14
LB
Will pick 4th
Round 15
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 16
T
Will pick 3rd
Round 17
DT
Will pick 2nd
Round 18
DE
Will pick 1st
Round 19
CB
Will pick 3rd
Round 20
K
Will pick 4th
Round 21
TE
Will pick 3rd
Round 22
RB
Will pick 15th
Round 23
WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 24
LB
Will pick 3rd
Round 25
G
Will pick 5th
Round 26
T
Will pick 4th
Round 27
DT
Will pick 1st
Round 28
DE
Will pick 2nd
Round 29
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 30
P
Will pick 4th
Round 31
TE
Will pick 2nd
Round 32
RB
Will pick 2nd
Round 33
WR
Will pick 4th
Round 34
LB
Will pick 3rd
Round 35
G
Will pick 3rd
Round 36
S
Will pick 3rd
Round 37
KR
Will pick 3rd
Round 38
CB
Will pick 5th
Round 39
H
Will pick 14th
Round 40
C
Will pick 5th
Round 41
QB/RB
Will pick 3rd
Round 42
CB/S
Will pick 4th
Round 43
DT/DE
Will pick 3rd
Round 44
LB
Will pick 1st
Round 45
G/T
Will pick 3rd
Round 46
K/P
Will pick 15th
Round 47
WR/TE
Will pick 2nd
Round 48
KR
Will pick 2nd
Round 49
RB/WR
Will pick 3rd
Round 50
LB/CB
Will pick 2nd
Snaking Draft: 16th-->1st-->16th
Above Salary Cap by 15665 before cuts.
This was a terrible draft on my part..
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by KLKRTR]
redcped
Might as well include them. Might be nice to have the whole active roster on there later, just as a reference. Or at least the key backups.
March 12, 2011 at 06:29AM View BBCode
Yes I can. Do you just want the starting 22 (offense/defense) or do you want me to include the K/P in there?
Might as well include them. Might be nice to have the whole active roster on there later, just as a reference. Or at least the key backups.
Admin
What's interesting is your position group averages... I'm working on an alternate "simple" draft system that kind of works like that in reverse, where you set sliders between pairs of options (Offense vs, Defense, backfield vs receivers, etc) and it extrapolates settings for you based on the slider settings.
--Chris
March 12, 2011 at 06:57AM View BBCode
So are you saying this is something I should be displaying? :)What's interesting is your position group averages... I'm working on an alternate "simple" draft system that kind of works like that in reverse, where you set sliders between pairs of options (Offense vs, Defense, backfield vs receivers, etc) and it extrapolates settings for you based on the slider settings.
--Chris
KLKRTR
I can live with the best overall defensive ranking and #4 overall offensive ranking.
(#1 in defensive line, #1 defensive backfield)
What I'm really surprised by is Montreal's Total Rating of 4.8. The next best is Hamilton at 6.2 (Kansas City and Michigan are tied for 3rd at 6.5). Boston's All or Nothing approach didn't appear to work out that well (11.0). The Abusers were just above average at 8.4 (tied for 6th).
March 12, 2011 at 07:14AM View BBCode
It's very interesting...and I'm curious to see how different strengths and weaknesses match up against each other throughout the season...especially curious to see if Chicago (all offense, no defense) works out or not.I can live with the best overall defensive ranking and #4 overall offensive ranking.
(#1 in defensive line, #1 defensive backfield)
What I'm really surprised by is Montreal's Total Rating of 4.8. The next best is Hamilton at 6.2 (Kansas City and Michigan are tied for 3rd at 6.5). Boston's All or Nothing approach didn't appear to work out that well (11.0). The Abusers were just above average at 8.4 (tied for 6th).
Hamilton2
Montreal - 4.8
Hamilton - 6.2
Kansas City - 6.5
Michigan - 6.5
New York - 8.2
New Orleans - 8.4
Arizona - 8.4
Washington - 9.0
Los Angeles - 9.2
Chicago - 9.2
Anaheim - 9.4
Cleveland - 9.4
Oakland - 9.4
Green Bay - 10.2
Cincinnati - 10.5
Boston - 11
March 12, 2011 at 07:15AM View BBCode
OK, the spreadsheet includes the data for the starters on Offense and Defense as well as K/P. The "Total Rating" on the bottom is just an average of your offensive and defensive draft positions. Some positions are probably more valuable than others, but for the sake of keeping this simple, here are some pre-season power rankings:Montreal - 4.8
Hamilton - 6.2
Kansas City - 6.5
Michigan - 6.5
New York - 8.2
New Orleans - 8.4
Arizona - 8.4
Washington - 9.0
Los Angeles - 9.2
Chicago - 9.2
Anaheim - 9.4
Cleveland - 9.4
Oakland - 9.4
Green Bay - 10.2
Cincinnati - 10.5
Boston - 11
KLKRTR
March 12, 2011 at 07:19AM View BBCode
That's what 12 top 3 picks (and 19 top 5 picks) out of 24 starters does for you...see you in the Sim Bowl Hamilton ;)
Hamilton2
March 12, 2011 at 07:20AM View BBCode
This was probably an exercise in futility and I'll miss the playoffs again. LOL
redcped
I'm trying to figure out which teams did not make any changes in bidding.
Looks like LA, Washington, Green Bay, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona and Anaheim.
At QB, for instance, those teams drafted 10-16
At RB1, they were 7-13
etc.
So bids of even 101 in some categories lifted you above 7 teams. If you bid low but over 100 in many spots and only went under 100 in a few, your ranking will be pretty good.
I would not say this is representative of what to expect in pay leagues, and talent should be more evenly distributed in those leagues.
March 12, 2011 at 05:07PM View BBCode
I think this is pretty interesting.I'm trying to figure out which teams did not make any changes in bidding.
Looks like LA, Washington, Green Bay, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona and Anaheim.
At QB, for instance, those teams drafted 10-16
At RB1, they were 7-13
etc.
So bids of even 101 in some categories lifted you above 7 teams. If you bid low but over 100 in many spots and only went under 100 in a few, your ranking will be pretty good.
I would not say this is representative of what to expect in pay leagues, and talent should be more evenly distributed in those leagues.
Hamilton2
I do agree that you identified the correct teams who did not make any changes.
Poor BOS. He put all that money into his QB and it turns out that BOS is the windiest city in the sim. That's going to be a challenge.
March 12, 2011 at 05:23PM View BBCode
I don't know, I think that KLKRTR has figured out the system. His drafts have completely dominated in all 3 leagues that we have been in together.I do agree that you identified the correct teams who did not make any changes.
Poor BOS. He put all that money into his QB and it turns out that BOS is the windiest city in the sim. That's going to be a challenge.
Admin
--Chris
March 12, 2011 at 05:31PM View BBCode
One of the windiest cities; it's tied with Buffalo, New England (also Boston, really), and New York. The least windy city overall is Sacramento; it 's average wind is 7mph, which is tied with San Diego, Phoenix, Arizona (also Phoenix), and Orlando (and ahead of British Columbia at 6) but its calm percentage is 30%. (Nearby Oakland also has a 30% calm percentage but the average winds there are 8mph.)--Chris
Hamilton2
Yes, I think that there should be a final draft order page that shows all team's draft positions in a grid format like this. As it is now it is nearly impossible to figure out how well you did in the draft, compared to other teams.
The positional pairings, I think, were fairly intuitive. The slider system would be much easier to do than inputting all of the numbers by hand.
March 12, 2011 at 05:41PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Admin
So are you saying this is something I should be displaying? :)
What's interesting is your position group averages... I'm working on an alternate "simple" draft system that kind of works like that in reverse, where you set sliders between pairs of options (Offense vs, Defense, backfield vs receivers, etc) and it extrapolates settings for you based on the slider settings.
--Chris
Yes, I think that there should be a final draft order page that shows all team's draft positions in a grid format like this. As it is now it is nearly impossible to figure out how well you did in the draft, compared to other teams.
The positional pairings, I think, were fairly intuitive. The slider system would be much easier to do than inputting all of the numbers by hand.
KLKRTR
I think you're right about the teams that didn't adjust points....the 101 thing is something I've used a lot of, but that doesn't get you skill positions..just gotta draft to a system.
March 12, 2011 at 05:56PM View BBCode
Originally posted by redcped
I think this is pretty interesting.
I'm trying to figure out which teams did not make any changes in bidding.
Looks like LA, Washington, Green Bay, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona and Anaheim.
At QB, for instance, those teams drafted 10-16
At RB1, they were 7-13
etc.
So bids of even 101 in some categories lifted you above 7 teams. If you bid low but over 100 in many spots and only went under 100 in a few, your ranking will be pretty good.
I would not say this is representative of what to expect in pay leagues, and talent should be more evenly distributed in those leagues.
I think you're right about the teams that didn't adjust points....the 101 thing is something I've used a lot of, but that doesn't get you skill positions..just gotta draft to a system.
tworoosters
I wanted very high picks at QB, #1 RB and both WR positions,which I accomplished, I ignored TE and Backup QB as well as #2 RB . I've had lots of offensive success with a stud HB and a cheap great run blocker for FB
I intentionally ignored LB as an experiment, we'll see how it affects my overall defense
March 12, 2011 at 06:27PM View BBCode
I messed up with DE but other than that I achieved what I wanted to do with this draft .I wanted very high picks at QB, #1 RB and both WR positions,which I accomplished, I ignored TE and Backup QB as well as #2 RB . I've had lots of offensive success with a stud HB and a cheap great run blocker for FB
I intentionally ignored LB as an experiment, we'll see how it affects my overall defense
Admin
--Chris
March 12, 2011 at 07:09PM View BBCode
I had set all my positions up for the '61 draft and forgot to reset them for '62. I'm wondering if I should carry over your bid allocation from season to season rather than clearing it.--Chris
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