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triphopim
Having a great offensive line or having great backs like Lynch?
which is better to focus on when drafting?
Great backs or great OL?
February 13, 2014 at 12:29AM View BBCode
which is more important when building a smash mouth team with a great defense ala Seahawks in this game?Having a great offensive line or having great backs like Lynch?
which is better to focus on when drafting?
triphopim
February 13, 2014 at 03:57AM View BBCode
ok, if you had to make a choice to draft highest, which is most important, Tackle, guard or center?
dirtdevil
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by dirtdevil]
February 13, 2014 at 04:21AM View BBCode
whichever player is better. there's no real difference. I have 3 football teams. one won the sim bowl last year while having 1 C and 4 T starting on the o-line. the second lost the sim bowl last year while starting a G at T and a T at G. the third is 10-1 and also starts a G at T and a T at G. on the o-line only skill matters. the only thing I insist on positionally on the o-line (and the reason those two teams have a G playing T) is that my LT has to have good AGIL to go with his STR and BLK skills.[Edited on 2-13-2014 by dirtdevil]
triphopim
February 13, 2014 at 04:41AM View BBCode
is it possible to win with 4 good tackles/guards and an average center?
dirtdevil
February 13, 2014 at 04:45AM View BBCode
it depends on the league, really. and what you consider to be an average C, I guess. I would say that if I had to use an 'average' guy on the line then C is the place I would put him. does that answer the question properly?
triphopim
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
February 13, 2014 at 04:50AM View BBCode
can I ask you how would you best distribute points to draft a team with a great defense? thats my quandry. I cant find enough points for an OL after my D.[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
triphopim
You seem to be extremely knowledgeable DD.
You wrote "execution is even more overrated than potential. there are some positions where I value execution. three of them. for the rest, I pretty much ignore it."
i see where you said WR is one.
can I ask what are the two? thanks
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
February 13, 2014 at 05:27AM View BBCode
I read your other post. very helpful.You seem to be extremely knowledgeable DD.
You wrote "execution is even more overrated than potential. there are some positions where I value execution. three of them. for the rest, I pretty much ignore it."
i see where you said WR is one.
can I ask what are the two? thanks
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
dirtdevil
(I don't pretend to be any more knowledgeable than a number of other guys. the value of EXE, in particular, has kind of been an ongoing discussion amongst a few guys I play with. but that's the way I see things personally. I would encourage anyone to get input from as many different quality sources as possible, then decide what works best for you.)
February 13, 2014 at 01:12PM View BBCode
K & QB(I don't pretend to be any more knowledgeable than a number of other guys. the value of EXE, in particular, has kind of been an ongoing discussion amongst a few guys I play with. but that's the way I see things personally. I would encourage anyone to get input from as many different quality sources as possible, then decide what works best for you.)
Hodor
You're talking about the initial draft, right?
a couple of thoughts:
*For positions where you have to start more than 1 player you need to focus more on the second round than in the first one.
I mean, it's better to have both the 16 + 17 players in the rank (i.e. the last one of the first round + the first of the second), than to have the 1st + 32, plus it's a lot "cheaper".
*Try to rank your players in a worksheet like excel keeping track of the player's original rank spot.
If you follow dirt's advice of don't paying too much attention to EXE, you'll find that some of the best players originally were ranked pretty low.
Considering that not every owner modifies the original rank, that let's you know how much you should bid to get the players that you want in any position: perhaps in your top 5 for a position you'll have the players originally ranked at 2, 15, 24, 5, 18; either you bid really high to try to grab #2 (who is your best player in this example), or you can totally neglect that position (bidding 0 points in the first round) aiming to get either #15 or #18 at the bottom of the first, and bidding high in the second round, aiming to get #24. This way you would get your 2nd and 3rd best players and it would've cost you not one single point in the first round.
Obviously, all of this depends on how good you can sort your draft board.
February 13, 2014 at 08:51PM View BBCode
Originally posted by triphopim
can I ask you how would you best distribute points to draft a team with a great defense? thats my quandry. I cant find enough points for an OL after my D.
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by triphopim]
You're talking about the initial draft, right?
a couple of thoughts:
*For positions where you have to start more than 1 player you need to focus more on the second round than in the first one.
I mean, it's better to have both the 16 + 17 players in the rank (i.e. the last one of the first round + the first of the second), than to have the 1st + 32, plus it's a lot "cheaper".
*Try to rank your players in a worksheet like excel keeping track of the player's original rank spot.
If you follow dirt's advice of don't paying too much attention to EXE, you'll find that some of the best players originally were ranked pretty low.
Considering that not every owner modifies the original rank, that let's you know how much you should bid to get the players that you want in any position: perhaps in your top 5 for a position you'll have the players originally ranked at 2, 15, 24, 5, 18; either you bid really high to try to grab #2 (who is your best player in this example), or you can totally neglect that position (bidding 0 points in the first round) aiming to get either #15 or #18 at the bottom of the first, and bidding high in the second round, aiming to get #24. This way you would get your 2nd and 3rd best players and it would've cost you not one single point in the first round.
Obviously, all of this depends on how good you can sort your draft board.
triphopim
thanks DD
February 13, 2014 at 10:01PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
K & QB
(I don't pretend to be any more knowledgeable than a number of other guys. the value of EXE, in particular, has kind of been an ongoing discussion amongst a few guys I play with. but that's the way I see things personally. I would encourage anyone to get input from as many different quality sources as possible, then decide what works best for you.)
thanks DD
EdSales87
I, am, a Shotgun Pig.
February 16, 2014 at 08:09PM View BBCode
I prefer Exe in my O-Line, but I don't run a Smashmouth Offense.I, am, a Shotgun Pig.
RichNYC1
I agree with DD about the concentrating more on OL than RB if youre a balanced team. Unless you have a real big-time back, 85+ overall with 90+ Carrying, RBīs are a dime a dozen. They have the shortest average career and if you feed them more than 20 times a game they will wear out even faster. I think having a strong line and splitting the load between two or more guys generally works much better. RBīs have the highest injury rate (19.6%) and the more you run him the more you risk. If you only have one superstar and you lose him its over.
But I think this conversation went a little off the track once Execution came into it. EXE doesnt really matter (if at all) when you are a running team. The only difference it makes right now with O-Linemen is in their ability to pick up the blitz (and Iīm not even sure it makes that much difference). For me, I would be sure to have OL with high ATT scores, those guys always play over their head and you need that when you are a heavy run team because being one dimensional, especially when its a one dimensional running team, is a tough way to a championship, itīs just too easy to shut down. Youīll see some one dimensional passing teams win (less and less now) but I dont ever remember seeing a pure running team win a title.
If you do choose to go that way you will need a big time back. That kind of guy can control a game even with a lessor offensive line, assuming your defense is really, really good. But you will also need a QB like Wilson who can make a few plays in the long passing game or a good defense is going to come up and cause you a lot of problems.
February 16, 2014 at 09:40PM View BBCode
Originally posted by triphopim
which is more important when building a smash mouth team with a great defense ala Seahawks in this game?
Having a great offensive line or having great backs like Lynch?
which is better to focus on when drafting?
I agree with DD about the concentrating more on OL than RB if youre a balanced team. Unless you have a real big-time back, 85+ overall with 90+ Carrying, RBīs are a dime a dozen. They have the shortest average career and if you feed them more than 20 times a game they will wear out even faster. I think having a strong line and splitting the load between two or more guys generally works much better. RBīs have the highest injury rate (19.6%) and the more you run him the more you risk. If you only have one superstar and you lose him its over.
But I think this conversation went a little off the track once Execution came into it. EXE doesnt really matter (if at all) when you are a running team. The only difference it makes right now with O-Linemen is in their ability to pick up the blitz (and Iīm not even sure it makes that much difference). For me, I would be sure to have OL with high ATT scores, those guys always play over their head and you need that when you are a heavy run team because being one dimensional, especially when its a one dimensional running team, is a tough way to a championship, itīs just too easy to shut down. Youīll see some one dimensional passing teams win (less and less now) but I dont ever remember seeing a pure running team win a title.
If you do choose to go that way you will need a big time back. That kind of guy can control a game even with a lessor offensive line, assuming your defense is really, really good. But you will also need a QB like Wilson who can make a few plays in the long passing game or a good defense is going to come up and cause you a lot of problems.
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